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Pointed bullets in a levergun? Hornady leverevolution
08 November 2005, 22:55
grizzPointed bullets in a levergun? Hornady leverevolution
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=198Interesting new twist in technology. Super soft tipped, pointed bullet that increases BC to make a 30-30 a 200 yard gun!
But will the common once a year hunter buy them? They all KNOW you can't shoot a pointed bullet in a tube fed lever gun!
I'll never know for sure, I'm a dedicated bolt gun freak,('cept for the AR).
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08 November 2005, 23:43
vapodogquote:
But will the common once a year hunter buy them? They all KNOW you can't shoot a pointed bullet in a tube fed lever gun!
My guess only.....if the price is right...they will buy them.
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09 November 2005, 01:06
mhoNot that I shoot lever actions with a tubular magazine that often (I have exactly one), but I find this a super neat idea!
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09 November 2005, 01:17
wrongtargetAccording to their data, the .30-30 is a 300yd gun!!
http://hornady.primediaoutdoors.com/HDstory1.htmlPrice isn't too bad at $14 for the .30-30 and bit more for the .35 Rem.
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/leverevolution.asp09 November 2005, 03:25
vapodog[QUOTE]Originally posted by wrongtarget:
According to their data, the .30-30 is a 300yd gun!!QUOTE]
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09 November 2005, 04:36
seafire/B17GPersonally, I think this is fantastic News!
300 yds may be stretching it for most folks, but I can see a guy who shoots a lot, and has a Burris Ballistic Plex scope, being able to coax 300 yds out of it.. but not every nimrod will be able to do that....
However for the lever action guys, this is just what the doctor ordered... this from Joe Round Nose Lover here!
I am sure glad hornady is out playing with new products and designs.... Considering on how many 30.30s exists in the closets of the USA and Canada... that is a boat load of potential customers.....
Look on the other side, It will do anything the current 30/30 offerings will do, so there is no step backwards here.... It can only get better....
Way to go hornady... I sure hope it is available as a reloading component!
cheers
seafire
09 November 2005, 07:53
.366torqueHOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!
Time to dust off the 30-30 AI
09 November 2005, 08:11
krakyWhere's my 45-70---I'll bet it's coming soon!!
09 November 2005, 08:12
krakyPS--If you can't put it down in 2 shot's with the 45-70 the animal deserved better and you deserve.......nothing!
09 November 2005, 08:23
weagleI wonder if those tips stay soft if it's way below freezing?
Weagle
09 November 2005, 17:29
MontMikeThey already list the 45-70 round, also according to them the 30-30 is carrying 1700 ft/sec and only 12" drop at 300, so not a terrible shot.
10 November 2005, 10:39
BuzzThey seem like "Gummy Bullets" to me. If they deform that easily how to they retain their form when they are subjected to 40k PSI pushing on them and the air resistance?
10 November 2005, 22:54
whiplashWhen will we see that bullet offered as a component???
10 November 2005, 23:15
El Deguelloquote:
Originally posted by grizz:
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=198Interesting new twist in technology. Super soft tipped, pointed bullet that increases BC to make a 30-30 a 200 yard gun!
But will the common once a year hunter buy them? They all KNOW you can't shoot a pointed bullet in a tube fed lever gun!
I'll never know for sure, I'm a dedicated bolt gun freak,('cept for the AR).
Well, it'd sure be easy to BLUNT them in a magazine, tubular or otherwise!
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11 November 2005, 05:02
naja302If you want a 300 yard lever gun that will shoot pointed bullets buy a BLR. But I like lever guns for short range(under 200) or in the woods. If I want to shoot 300 yds I got bolt guns for that.
12 November 2005, 18:59
raybassThis is good news to me as i was already thinking about getting a good levergun in 30/30.I've owned marlin's 336 before and liked it but thinking of trying a winchester since they are lighter. Hornady's new bullets kinda seal the deal.Wonder how they will work on pigs also noticed the bullet weight @ 160 grains.Oh,any faults with the winchester I should know.
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12 November 2005, 23:18
snowmanI have an old Savage 99 in 30-30. The barrel had been shot out years ago and my Dad had it re-barreled. It shoots just about any bullet you care to load very well. I have used it with the 130 Hornady spire pts with very good success filling some whitetail doe tags. I'm not sure I would call it a 300 yd rifle but it sure does the job at 200. Dam shame Savage quit making the the 99.
14 November 2005, 07:09
JALquote:
Originally posted by raybass:
Oh,any faults with the winchester I should know.
No, after over 100 years there mostly sorted out. If you can look over the various models before you buy would be best. Don't worry about apparent "looseness" in the action, though I believe they've tightened them up a bit nowdays.
John L.
14 November 2005, 07:43
Mickey1Hey, I had a bow with arrows like that when I was a kid.
14 November 2005, 18:13
MajorCaliberWhat's the point?
16 November 2005, 04:48
JaywalkerI'll buy some - I don't like reloading 30-30.
The point? A bit faster to start, and better aerodynamics mean a bit more retained velocity downrange. A little easier to hit with and a bit more power to be more than the "leg braker" it's always been, because of its excess drop.
Jaywalker
16 November 2005, 05:53
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by naja302:
If you want a 300 yard lever gun that will shoot pointed bullets buy a BLR. But I like lever guns for short range(under 200) or in the woods. If I want to shoot 300 yds I got bolt guns for that.
Yes...exactly.
Ya have to hand it to the Hornady company for it's creativity and courage in bring out innovative products..... This beats the hell out of the WSSMs and SAUMs that we've seen flop big time!!!
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17 November 2005, 20:23
JaywalkerAh, but you're talking about buying a new rifle in order to shoot spitzers. That's not a bad thing, I agree, but if you already have a Marlin or a Winchester gathering dust, the new bullets are a good way to gain an extra 50 yards or so, cheaply.
Jaywalker
