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8x57, rem 185g, H4895
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No manual I have lists this combination, and Hodgdon's web site does not list 185 grain bullets. Does anybody have any published start and max loads? Does anybody have an actual max from their particular rifle? I've been working up from 41 grains to 43.5, no problems yet. just loaded 44.0 to 45.5 for tomorrow.

I'm looking for a load that will get the elevation right on the open sights on my vz-24 and/or Turk. I know published data is conservative, but, at my experience level, I don't want to stray too far over.

Anyone have a favorite load with H4831, IMR4350, Varget, BL-C2 or Varget?

Does any manual give data with 185 grain bullets?


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Most data is with a 180gr projectile, but it gives you a guide to work from.
http://www.adi-limited.com/handloaders-guide/rifle.asp
The above link is to the ADI website, they make most of the Hodgdon powders including H4895, Varget, H4831SC.
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BJA,

When I am faced with this problem. I extrapolate the data. Max load for 195 grns is 45.8 max load for 180 grns is 48. That's a difference of 2.2. You have a difference of 15 grns of bullet wt divide the 2.2 by 15 and multiple by 5 and round down for safety and ...gets you .7 grns then take another .3 grns off safety. Therefore a guesstimate max for 185 is 46.2...I would not exceed this number.


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Thanks. That ADI link is helpful. I had been extrapolating from 170g and 200g data, I'm glad your numbers are close to mine. These charges are not far from data I've seen on IMR4895, too.


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