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My buddy has a 10yo B&C Tikka stock from a 9.3x62 he wants to sell. Though it worked well, the finish has gone sticky and he wants to send it back to be refinished. Trouble is, once that's done, exporting it again from the US is a PITA, so he's thinking of selling it over your side.

We have some friends who would do that for us but I wouldn't ask them to ship it out of the country.

Thanks if anyone can suggest a fair price to ask for such a refurbished stock.
 
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Here is what ebay shows. Somebody bid $175 for one of these. You might watch the one that started with the low minimum bid and is at $54 and see how high it runs up:

https://www.ebay.com/b/Bell-an...rts/73949/bn_5877273
 
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Why not just refinish it herself?


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Thanks guys, I'll pass that info on, esp. Hasher's opinion that sending back a stock for refinishing is unmanly. Though the whole acquisition and history of that stock is a mystery (to one who just oils any scratches on his old wooden stocks), I suppose refinishing at home might not downgrade its value more than the cost of shipping and getting it done in America.
 
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What do you mean by an s/h stock?


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Originally posted by sambarman338:
Thanks guys, I'll pass that info on, esp. Hasher's opinion that sending back a stock for refinishing is unmanly. Though the whole acquisition and history of that stock is a mystery (to one who just oils any scratches on his old wooden stocks), I suppose refinishing at home might not downgrade its value more than the cost of shipping and getting it done in America.




I would never suggest that a Digfer is unmanly.

Just considering the cost to get it there and back Ali g with the time I would think sandi f it down himself and doing a home finish job would cost lest and be done in a week or two.


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Well, Mike, s/h means second-hand over here.

Hasher, yes, that makes sense to me. I haven't even seen the stock since it went bad. In fact that he had sold the rifle was news to me and a mistake IMHO because the 9.3x62 is a much better sambar rifle than the 300 Win mag he uses now.

I would have thought some sort of solvent might be indicated to get rid of the stickiness before sanding but he says B&C just sand them back...

I'd like to know why their finish is so dodgy in the first place - the varnish on my Sako 338 has remained good over 43 years, though I do rub some oil into any scratches.

PS: what exactly do you mean by a digfer? Is that someone asking for info?
 
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Sorry meant to say Digger and didn’t check my spelling.


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If you don't want to/don't have time to refinish the stock yourself I'd suggest just remove the hardware and take it somewhere that does furniture refinishing. One of my rifles has a B&C stock I put on it 35+ years ago that has held up quite well. Original finish has some scratches as it's been hunted with all over the place but still doesn't look too bad.


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Thanks Hasher,
but he's not been in the army. Might have come to help me with my deer the other day if he had. (Sambar are big critters and need to be taken out of the bush in pieces.) On the other hand, had he been a soldier he might not still be hunter. My father was apparently a great hunter before WWII - not so much afterwards.

Yes, Mark, if it were up to me, I'd never have bought the damned thing. He was worried the wooden stock was getting scratched - you'd think it was a Purdey, not a Tikka.
 
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Acetone/91% isopropyl alcohol + paper towels with chem resistant gloves will remove the sticky. Do it outdoors. Test on an inconspicuous spot first. When done, spray the stock with a good, satin lacquer furniture finish. If it gets scratched, just buff it with a 3M pad and re-coat.

I hope the company that marketed that stuff had good liability insurance.
 
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Thanks Bobster,
That looks most helpful and I've passed it on to my mate, verbatem.

Cheers
 
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Is this rifle for sale and is it a 9.3x62? If so that will add to its value somewhat, that caliber is bringing a premium.


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He'd already sold the rifle, unknown to me, with the original wooden stock. It seems he did all right out of the deal, though, getting $A1700 for it. IIRC, he'd got it new for $1200 about 10 years ago.

I would have hung on to it, as I've said, as I think the 9.3 is much better for sambar in our thick bush than the 300WM he uses now. He had been thinking of getting a 338WM before he got the .300 but I had said it was too close to the 9.3 in performance to be bothered, considering his luke-warm commitment to the sport. My suggestion of the 300WM was based on the assumption he would keep the 9.3 and that he might use the new rifle for longer shots at tahr and red deer, as well as sambar.

He claims he didn't like his small gunsafe being so crowded - I would have got another container.
 
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