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Want something that you can carry, yet drop game out to 300 yards? http://media.midwayusa.com/Pro...ges/Large/114648.jpg Remington MODEL SEVEN CDL CLASSIC DELUXE 350 Rem. Mag.: 20" magnum contour barrel with sights. http://www.remington.com/produ...model-seven-cdl.aspx 200 gr: TSX FB Powder (grains) (fps) ♦ TAC 64.0 2943! http://www.barnesbullets.com/i...mingtonMagnumWeb.pdf http://www.ramshot.com/powders/tac.php | ||
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2764 FPS from a 20" barrel with a .358 Dia 225 grain anything is truly a great elk killing machine. Light, compact and extremely powerful. Awesome! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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200tsx 2943mv 2.780" col and 225tsx 2764mv 2.800"col,from 20"brl, seems somewhat optimistic. 350rm with proper banded design bullets like GScustom 200gnHV[rather than the grooved tsx], offers about 2900mv/24"brl. Double Tap loads the Whelen200tsx [sticking out quite a ways],it claims 2850mv/24"barrel. Nosler Custom 350rm225np 2550mv ... i presume from 24" brl. Nosler Custom 35Whelen 225AB 2800mv impressive for a factory load. however if someone is achieving those 350rm velocities claimed by Barnes, more power to em! | |||
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Having owned a Remmie 673 in .350 RM I can absolutely say that it's a phenomenal North American Gun. Huge power, compact package. Recoil is manageable with 200's and getting stout with 250's. Last year I took it to Texas. Two deer walked into it's Line of Sight - it hammered them so hard and fast I was truly stunned. I'll never forget that scene. Dew on the ground, cold flat winter morning light, smoke and steam pouring up from the bullet hole, 40 yards away and a red mist hanging in the cold dawn air. A 20" KS is a tool to be reckoned with. Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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Somethings not right !!!! If you run this through Quick Load I get the following. A 35cal. 200gr FB bullet, 64gr Tac, 20" barrel=3160fps 350 rem mag max average pressure is 62,366psi That load is 112,701psi (50,335psi over max). It's also 120.6% of case capacity What am I missing? | |||
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I can't comment on the QL data, but I can say that I did use 64.0 gr. of Tac under a 200gr. Horn IL in a 22" bbl'ed Rem. 673. My velocity was around 2800fps. It was not a compressed charge. I'm thinking that you may have selected a .358 Winchester case instead of the .350 RMag case? That would make sense... Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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rnovi....I double checked it again this morning, same thing. If anyone has Quick Load and can run this, let me know what you come up with. I ran it with a 358 Win. case and pressure is 496,366psi. 153.8% case capacity. Vel. 3,732fps I have a 358STA that I run with 90.0gr H4350 and a 250gr. Swift A-Frame. Vel. is 3060fps | |||
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If you can find a Remington 673 in 350 RM, buy it. I won't sell mine. I also have a 700 classic in 350 RM. Both shoot MOA or better. The cartridge hits like a ton of brick and will do so pass 300 yards. I have always felt it was one of the best moose guns, the Rem 673, especially. It's small and easy to handle in the brush and light to carry. Both are assets in moose country.......Tom SCI lifer NRA Patron DRSS DSC | |||
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I shoot does with a max load pushing a 180 grain hornady single shot pistol bullet. It works. | |||
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Isn't the 350 RM very close ballistic and performancewise to the great 9.3x62 mm? Amazingly, no such short and handy rifles are manufactured or offered here in the latter caliber. One day I will rebarrel a Ruger International Stutzen to that round. | |||
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I've got a Remington Model 700 Classic in 350 RM. It has proven to be an extremely effective short range elk rifle. But, it isn't one I use much anymore. I fell in love with the 9.3x62 Mauser cartridge and the 350 rarely leaves the house. The 350 while effective simply pales against the old Mauser. The 9.3 has a lot better range of bullets to select from and they can be had up to 320 grs. It is simply one of the most effective game rounds ever developed. Matter of fact, I may just sell the 350 since it never gets used. | |||
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I'd guess that there might be a few folks with more than a passing interest in it! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Comparing the 9.3 to the 350: - Barnes : 200 TSX vs. 250 TSX (big recoil difference) yet only .008 in diameter change. Going from .308 to .358 is the whole idea for moose elk and bear. .366 offers no gain in frontal area and the TSX bullets jump 50 grains. The 350 also allows the option of using the 225 and increasing B.C. if wanting to shoot 300 yards. This can be a 1 rifle hunter caliber. - Carbine: the short magnum of the 350 allows excellent velocity from 20" vs. 26" Comparing the Barnes data with a 6" greater barrel literally cancels the 9.3 IMO because the whole idea of looking at either caliber is for hunting in the classic 100-250 yard range where majority of game is taken. Packing a carbine through sticks to accomplish the task. No doubt, TAC propellant and the TSX bullets make the 350 a much greater cartridge than the 9.3 Last of all, the 350 CAN be built on a short action although I would not recommend it unless building on a Remington 600 or Ultra light Arms. The difference in weight of a 7, 700 short or 700 standard action is a mere few ounces. Build on a standard action and include a slight freebore in the chamber past SAAMI spec. reamers. | |||
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I almost bought the Remington model 7 CDL in 350 Rem mag but checked around and couldn't find any ammo for it ( I dont reload) everyone was out of stock. with the popularity of the short mags I wonder why the 350 Rem mag isn't more popular | |||
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All good and well, but I still can't get 35 caliber bullets that weigh 320 grains and I can get them for the 9.3. Besides, lots of what you posted is hypothtical since they compare 20 inch barrels to 26 inch barrels. As you post states, if the 350 carbine was available with a 26 inch barrel, it would be equivilent to the 9.3. But, it does not have a 26 inch barrel. So, the comparison is moot at best. Bottom line, for bigger game, the 9.3 with a 320 gr bullet will out perform the 350 with a 250 gr bullet. That's why the 9.3 was used so widely in Africa. It has the power for everything from deer to elephants. The 350 mag, while a very good cartridge, simply isn't in the same leaque. The 9.3 has been around for nearly 100 years and the 350 Rem mag has come and gone several times over the last couple of decades. Time will tell if it sticks around this time, but one thing is certain, the 9.3x62 Mauser will continue to do what it has been doing for a long, long time, killing game efficiently in the game fields all over the world, not just in North America. | |||
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Id prefer an std.M98 like this in 35whelen, over a RemSA 350mag. [/QUOTE] | |||
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Using 225 grs Barnes TSX on top of 63,0 grs Vihtavouri N-540. CCI 250 primers in my .350RM. Cartridge lenght 71,5 mm 24 inch Lothar Walther barrel in 673 action. Vel: 2870 fps. Just tell you,very deadly moose rifle!! | |||
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