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Guys,

I see numbers around 2700 fps for the 210 Nosler in 24" bbls posted. What sort of velocities are you all seeing in 22" barrels for the 210 gr NP and 225 gr Hornady SPs?

Is 2600 fps a rational hope for the 210 Nosler from a 22" bbl?

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My 22" barreled 338-06 quite easily gets 2600 fps with the 210 gr Partition. Same can be said for the 225 gr Partition.
 
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I easily get 2700 out my 22" 338-06 with 210gr NP's. With both Reloder 15 and Varget.
 
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Thanks Guys! Is good news.

Will start at abt 52 gr of RL-15 with R-P cases and WLR primers and work up with a chrono. Will look for the most accurate load at 2600 fps or better.

Should kill piggies like lightning Wink .338 WM certainly does.


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I am using 54.0 gr of RL15 & fed 210 primers with 200 gr nosler BT & am getting 7/8 " groups with no pressure signs. I use 35 Whelen Remington brass necked down. Don't have a chrony.



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My Ruger M77 wears a 22.5" bbl. & I can get just over 2700fps w/o bending anything.


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I have a 24" barrel my elk load this year was 54.3 gr of IMR4064 and a 200gr Accubond at 2800.This load really took the air out my bull and a exit wound.
 
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My most recent experience with my 338-06 resulted in this



taken at 280 yards with a 185 gr TSX launched at a bit under 3000 fps. The bullet was recovered under the hide after entering behind the near shoulder and centering the off one. It weighs 122 grs.

 
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Good job Boxhead. Glad I own a .338-06 too. Wink
 
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Does anyone use the heavier 225 or 250 gr weights?? I surely DO.

Why go to .338" when your shooting 200 or 210 gr bullets? Why not just stick to a .308" ??

A heavy for caliber ,250 gr slug, at a moderate velocity is IMHO THE reason the .338-06 works so well.

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A heavy for caliber ,250 gr slug,


A 338 bullet with a SD > 0.3 just isn't needed IMO. A premium 210-225gr 338-06 bullet will do anything you ask it to do.

The only exceptions I can think of, would be limited to Africa. Two maybe three species at that.
 
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Does anyone use the heavier 225 or 250 gr weights?? I surely DO.


sure do. Only 225 grn and 250grn. Most of my work is within 100yds. If I figure on longshots then my .30-338 gets the nod. With heavy bullets it is a fine meat gun.

For me it is not a point to acheive .338 mag vel. if so then I will grab one of my two .338's
 
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Mind sharing your loads with those 250 gr bullets. Gettin ready to load up some 250 Swift A-Frames in mine for a May brown bear hunt. Thinking about using RL 15 or H4350.
 
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That is a rather strange shape for an X bullet. certainly looks like it did a good job on a nice bull.
But The shape is closer to a classic mushroom than an X bullet.
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250 Swift A-Frames
Federal .30-06 fire formed to .338-06
Fed 210 primer, 57.0 gr H-4350 OCL 3.340"
Avg 2510 fps VERY accurate

All components the same... 58.0 gr H-4350
Avg 2573 fps

24" Lilja bbl, 60 degrees temp Oehler 35 @12'

For 225 gr NP's ; 60.0 gr of H-4350 will yield 2575 fps

ALL of these H-4350 loads are with the newer Extreme type powder. Supposedly less temperature sensitive.

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FN, thanks for sharing the info.
 
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I have used the 210 gr Partition a lot with equal success. The bull shown just dropped where he stood. The shot was 280 yards and the bullet centered bone on the off shoulder. I believe with the TSX or X 210 grs maximum is all that is needed in the 338-06. The 185 gr TSX essentially flies like the 180 gr 300 Mag, not too bad. When I want to launch 225's and greater I go up in diameter to the Whelen and 9.3x62, both loaded with the X or TSX. Next year I will be using the Whelen loaded with the 225 gr TSX in northern BC for moose, elk, and perhaps goat. Here's what the recovered 250 gr X's from my 9.3x62 looked like from a trip to Africa.

 
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I hear ya on moving up to the Whelen but I have been working with it and have not been able to get comfortable with either the 250 partitions or the 225 TSX's as both of my loads are doing no better than 1 1/2 - 2" and the 338-06 will do less than an inch with 215 Tsx and I hope will do the same with the 250 A Frames.

I took the 338-06 to NWT last year and was shooting 225 Custom Nosler Partition ammo. Moose dropped in his tracks at 205 yards and caribou was DRT at 249 yards. This builds confidence and if the 250 A Frame will get out at 2550 I will be fine on the big brownie out to 150 which is all I want.

Sure hope to get the Whelen well soon in any event. Of course my guide wants me to bring the 375 H&H but I think I will resist the temptation.
 
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When loading the A Frames does anyone make use of the band for crimping on this bullet? Or is it like the TSX and just ignored by most?
 
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