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I just picked up a like new Winchester model 70 Classic Sporter in 270. The wood on this gun is spectacular...until you look at it. It looks like it was fitted with a screw gun and drill bit dremmel tool style. The bolt notch is the worst of it, but it is amazing quality control let it pass. And it is obvious it is factory finish, not a re-do or a home gunsmithing project. Not hard to believe they were having trouble. I hope it shoots, but I am guessing the barrel is as uneven and tooled as the stock. | ||
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Why did you buy it if it was that bad? Should post some pictures of the problems. I've been lucky I own a pile of Win M70's all post 64 and have never had a bad one or seen a bad one that I keep hearing about. | |||
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Quintus, I have sold off all of the Model 70's I had that were made in the late stages of the New Haven era. I then bought several from the FN plant in South Carolina, all of which have shot factory ammo less than 1 MOA. I am very pleased with the new ones. | |||
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My only experience with newer Wins is an FN FWT in 270. Fit and finish are what you would expect from FN which translates into "good". I have heard of late manufacture New Havens being rather poor. Would also like to see some pics. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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I have heard that, to be on the safe side, only buy model 70 classics under the 150k range. I've seen some truly horrible machining on later production model 70 classics. Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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What really soured me on the newer Winchesters, (besides the chainsaw inletted bolt handle) was when I handled one of the new short magnums. Although it was a short action, the beveled loading gate mortise was full length, extending approximately halfway down the front ring. No attention to detail... | |||
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Matt, I have 3 M70s' one 270 @49XXX, one 338 @137XXX and one 30 06 from 2005 (dont have it in front of me), but it's a 7 digit serial number and is from New Haven. I also had a 375 Safari Express that I sold that was also a 2005 gun from NEw Haven. Of the 4 rifles, the 30 06 is the nicest finished, followed by the 49XXX 270, then the Safari Express, and then waaayy back is the 137XXX. Also, just the other day, I looked at a 127XXX 270 and it was spot on. I think the word for this era Winchester is inconsistent. Pretty sad when you think about it. | |||
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I have a backlog of pics to post if I could figure how to take the time to figure out how to do it. So I shot the new old 270 and it seems to have real potential. Three different loads with different powders and bullet weights all shot very well with 6 of each load landing in near MOA clusters. After cleaning the powder residue out of the bore you can see the copper fowling in what is a very rough barrel, but that will improve. with tuning and continued break in, this rifle will be a beautiful shooter. As long as I keep the bolt handle down, and the rifle in the stock it is very pretty. | |||
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I ran the Tubbs bore polisher bullets through mine. They come in a kit with 5 different compounds from 1 (coarsest) to 5 (finest) 10 bullets each. I used 5 of the #3, 5 of #4 and 10 of #5. Polished the bore right up and significantly reduced the copper fouling. Accuracy improved significantly also. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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So after a lot of break-in, a trigger job and some tinkering this rifle is trying to be my new favorite. 130 grain Partitions are running 3030-3040 with IMR 4350 and 10 will go into an easy 1 inch circle outside to outside leaving one paperless hole an inch over the dot at 110 yards. The bolt feels and sounds like it is made of butter when you run it and feeding is smooth and perfect. I am glad I got past the first impression. It will also shoot better than MOA with Barnes 110 TTSX at around 3400fps. It has been a fun and cheap project and I think I will try to find another, maybe in 7 em em. | |||
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 I love my M-70's "The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain TANSTAAFL www.savannagems.com A unique way to own a piece of Africa. DSC Life NRA Life | |||
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