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6.5mm125np Vs .30cal125tsx....?
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Heres a discussion for ye all....
You have a 6.5/06 pushing 125np....and 30/06 pushing 125tsx
...which do you feel would be a better allround performer on game?...and WHY?.... popcorn
 
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A .308" 125-grain bullet has a sectional density that is too low for anything but varmints. The .264", 125-grain has a significantly higher sd, making it much more suitable as a game bullet.


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1. As to the bullet designs themselves: Expansion with the Nosler Partition is predictable and consistent, with failures extremely rare. Expansion with the monometals is not nearly as predictable, with expansion failures more common.

2. The smaller diameter bullet will have a greater SD and BC. Its downrange striking velocity will be higher in most instances, therefore it will strike the target with more energy.

3. Its sectional density will also provide, all things being equal, greater penetration.

The 6.5 is the winner.
 
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The 125 NP is a superlative bullet but I think the 125 TXS is being under rated here. I have hunted and killed a bunch of game 100 to 600 lbs the last several years exclusively with the 130 gr Barnes boattail in my 300 Winnie with perfect success, 3600 fps. I just switched to the 130 GS HV because my stash of BTs is gone. I don't think the 125 out of a 30-06 at 3300 has any flies on it at all. Lead core and expanding monometals have different performance markers and I'd be equally comfortable with either choice. As to BC, I'd have to say that under 400 yds that is a true but unimportant field issue.


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To be kinda pragmatic about it, the few "light for calibre" bullets I tried thru my '06 weren't very accurate. I tried them with intent of varmint hunting with them but the accuracy left a lot to be desired so the "gee golly" velocity was kinda pointless.
IMO, 3300fps in a LG bullet is kinda pointless anyway.
The 125gr bullet from a 6.5 would be a differnt can of worms but even then I prefer a heavier bullet.
 
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It is almost like this is a non comparison...

the 125 partition is a proven performer...

125 grain bullets in 30 cal work well, but they do best on deer and antelope at lower velocities...

my son hunts with a 125 grain TNT or Ballistic tip in the 06, fueled with a charge of 30 grains of SR 4759...
 
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I think you're comparing apples and oranges. If this were about two cup and core bullets or even a 30 cal 125 gr partition I would agree with the dissenters because the Partion would lose too much frontal weight. But a 125-130 grain monometal bullet driven above 3000 fps is a completely different animal, and I can say that from extensive experience. But far be it from me to discourage an armchair argument; I've engaged in a few myself beer


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I know lots of people do it,
But I never understood why someone would prefer a 130 grain 30,06 bullet to a 150 on big game.
The only advantage I see would be a little less recoil.
You probably get a slighgtly flatter trajectory,on papper, but not enough to really make a difference.
That said, I am sure a 130 grain tsf from a 30,06 would be a good deer load.
But not as good as a 150.
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You hit my nail on the head with recoil. I shoot a 6 lb 300 Win and I shoot the 130 better than the 150 or 180. Confidence is 70% of good shooting and this combo has never failed me.


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Trigger gate you make a valid point point.
I bet that riifle packs a wallup at both ends.
I like light rifles, and I like magnums.
But with a few exceptions , I don't like light rifles in magnum cartridges.
The exceptions being .257 and .270 Weatherby, and .264 win.
I would consider a 7mag in a light rifle if it had a good recoil pad.
But in light weight rifles, I will stick with rounds like the .257 Roberts, up through mabye a 35 whelen.
Keeping in mind I am not likly to shoot much more than 300 yards.
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I am ususally a heavy-for-caliber kinda guy. I shoot 200s in my 300 Wby, 300s in the 375 and so on. I was playing around with a coyote load one day and had a box of the 130s and thought what the heck. They shot so well I fell in love with the load and ended up using it for everything. The gun is a Colt Light Rifle with a NULA stock. The stock is very good at mitigating felt recoil. My 9 lb Wby is less comfortable, lol.

FWIW, Colts are still around in 7 Mag.


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This point may not apply to the current discussion but I believe Barnes recommends backing off 1 bullet weight per caliber when loading.

For instance, if one normally shot 150's in their .308, you could accomplish the same goal with the 130 gr. TSX. A 180 gr. cup and core bullet would be replaced by the 165/168 gr. TSX.

I believe this information came from Barnes' web site. Just my 2cents...
 
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Ok, to avoid the issue of baRnes not opening, Lets chip the comparison up a few grains with a more respectable mono,

6.5mm 130AB/130 Swift scirocco, Vs 30cal. 130hv?

 
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