I started on an 8X68S several years ago & got sidetracked.

I purchased the dies & 20 Hirtenberger cases. I also have a Persian Mauser barrel cut back to 26" for rechambering & a Portugese Mauser trigger gaurd W/Weisner floorplate to lengthen.

Now, I have become interested in completing the project & can not find any 8X68 cases anywhere.

I'm not about to embark on this W/only 20 cases.

Internet searches of Grafs, Midsouth, Natchez, Huntingtons as well as RWS & Norma have drawn a blank.

Now what? Go W/an 8mm/375 Ruger wildcat?

This has been discussed here of late - the 8x68S brass seems to be pretty hard to come by these days - in North America as well as in Europe.

For a North American source, try Martini & Hagen (sp?) in Canada. They are rumored to have a supply on hand for sale - or at least people have bought from them of late. RWS brass is the brass of choice, if you can source it.

- mike

hmmmmm. How about "got sidetracked..." as an answer? America has never gotten on the 8mm bandwagon. Ask Remington. Inertia is likely the answer.

Rich

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
hmmmmm. How about "got sidetracked..." as an answer? America has never gotten on the 8mm bandwagon. Ask Remington. Inertia is likely the answer.

Rich

Well I for one love the 8mm bore.

I have several 8X57s, I had an 8mm-06 AI that would rival 300 Win Mag performance & I now want a "big thumper" in 8mm.

As far as getting "sidetracked"? In 2002 just after starting on this 8X68S project, I was severly injured by a very large horse. After that, it seemed like I was dealing W/one crisis after the other. I am now semi-retired & have the time to pick up on some projects I have been neglecting.

Money is now more of an object than it used to be, so the options are :

1: Spend $200 or more for 100 RWS 8X68S cases & use them sparingly.

2: Spend more than that for a set of 375 Rugar derived 8mm Rugar wildcat custom dies that will most likely have readily available brass in the future.

The 8mm Rugar wildcat will function through my existing magazine unaltered while the 8X68S will require lengthening the box. Both will require a chambering job.

I plan to re-chamber a pristeen Persian Mauser barrel that has been cut back to 26".

WJ
There is always the option of a 8x64S Breneke cases are available (http://www.johannsen-jagd.de/data_de/katalog/seiten/seite109.pdf) S&B for 77 euro per 100 or can be made from 7x64 and 280REM by seizing it in the 8x64 dies

For ballistics and more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8x64mm_S follow the links on the bottom of this page for loaded ammo!

http://saxtech.eu/8-mm-S/8x64S.htm

I have got the 8x68 and later only got the 8x64 and prefer the 64 it does whatever the 68 will do in 99% of application and is much more economical and pleasant to shoot and load.

Cheers

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Originally posted by freischuetz:
WJ
There is always the option of a 8x64S Breneke cases are available (http://www.johannsen-jagd.de/data_de/katalog/seiten/seite109.pdf) S&B for 77 euro per 100 or can be made from 7x64 and 280REM by seizing it in the 8x64 dies

For ballistics and more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8x64mm_S follow the links on the bottom of this page for loaded ammo!

http://saxtech.eu/8-mm-S/8x64S.htm

I have got the 8x68 and later only got the 8x64 and prefer the 64 it does whatever the 68 will do in 99% of application and is much more economical and pleasant to shoot and load.

Cheers

The 8X64 is basicly the 8mm-06 in case size & performance. I already had an 8mm-06 A.I. When I was considering the 8mm-06 I looked for data on the 8X64. I could find little on the 8X64 so I went W/the 8mm-06 & since it was a reloading proposition anyway, I just opted for the A.I. version. That was over 9 years ago. The 8X64 is not a common loading this side of the big pond.

I am looking for something W/a bit flatter trajectory & ME near 4000ft#s.

I don't really need it, but I just want something different in an 8mm bore that will fit into a standard length M98 action..

8X57, 8mm-06 A.I. & 8X68S. 3 levels of performance in the 8mm bore. 2600fps, 2800fps & 3000fps W/a 200 gr bullet.

I already have an action that has had the feed rails opened up too much (my mistake) & thought it would be a good candidate for the 8X68S.

WJ

http://www.johannsen-jagd.de/d.../seiten/seite109.pdf

they got 8x68 cases or direct from Honeber

should not be a problem getting them across the pond to NY?

quote:

Originally posted by freischuetz:
WJ

http://www.johannsen-jagd.de/d.../seiten/seite109.pdf

they got 8x68 cases or direct from Honeber

should not be a problem getting them across the pond to NY?

Are those prices in Euros, English#s or US$?

The shipping terms are in German.

I wonder what 100 cases would run me shipped?

I just asked the same in another thread... no luck for me either.
I sent an mail to Norma of Sweden asked about if they run some 6*68 brass anytime soon. THe reply was that they only make loaded ammo. But, i cant find any selling that either... so I have my project on hold also, until I can find at least 100 shells, loaded or not.
*update* looked at johannsen-jagd.de , looks quite promising, the price is in euro.



STIG

quote:

Originally posted by stigonom:
I sent an mail to Norma of Sweden asked about if they run some 6*68 brass anytime soon. THe reply was that they only make loaded ammo.

I do believe we indicated as much...

- mike

Just buy the brass and get on with it or move on.. The wildcat dies will cost you three times as much $$$ as a lifetime supply of 8x68S brass. Fretting about the price tag won't help. It's only going to go up. I'll trade you even up for what I pay for my 404 Jeffery or 450 Dakota or 505 Gibbs brass costs.
Have you considered archery? A dozen carbon fiber shafts (not arrows, bare shafts) run about $125 these days. Everything is more expensive in 2009.

Rich
it's reality knocking on the door, don't answer it...

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:

Have you considered archery? A dozen carbon fiber shafts (not arrows, bare shafts) run about $125 these days. Everything is more expensive in 2009.

Rich
it's reality knocking on the door, don't answer it...

Actually I used to make high quality Port Orford Cedar arrows for traditional archery.

My wife & I averaged about 350 dozen a year from 1994 to 1998.

And yes, I will probably just buy a few 100 cases & be done W/it.

quote:

Originally posted by mho:

quote:

Originally posted by stigonom:
I sent an mail to Norma of Sweden asked about if they run some 6*68 brass anytime soon. THe reply was that they only make loaded ammo.

I do believe we indicated as much...

- mike

I dont understand, what did you indicate; that I sent a mail to Norma?

STIG

quote:

Originally posted by wildcat junkie:
I started on an 8X68S several years ago & got sidetracked.

I purchased the dies & 20 Hirtenberger cases. I also have a Persian Mauser barrel cut back to 26" for rechambering & a Portugese Mauser trigger gaurd W/Weisner floorplate to lengthen.

Now, I have become interested in completing the project & can not find any 8X68 cases anywhere.

I'm not about to embark on this W/only 20 cases.

Internet searches of Grafs, Midsouth, Natchez, Huntingtons as well as RWS & Norma have drawn a blank.

Now what? Go W/an 8mm/375 Ruger wildcat?

I would suggest that his might be easier and possibly cheaper......

Martini and Hagn source thread

quote:

Originally posted by Gatogordo:

quote:

Originally posted by wildcat junkie:
I started on an 8X68S several years ago & got sidetracked.

I purchased the dies & 20 Hirtenberger cases. I also have a Persian Mauser barrel cut back to 26" for rechambering & a Portugese Mauser trigger gaurd W/Weisner floorplate to lengthen.

Now, I have become interested in completing the project & can not find any 8X68 cases anywhere.

I'm not about to embark on this W/only 20 cases.

Internet searches of Grafs, Midsouth, Natchez, Huntingtons as well as RWS & Norma have drawn a blank.

Now what? Go W/an 8mm/375 Ruger wildcat?

I would suggest that his might be easier and possibly cheaper......

Martini and Hagn source thread

Already been there & sent an e-mail.

quote:

Originally posted by stigonom:

quote:

Originally posted by mho:

quote:

Originally posted by stigonom:
I sent an mail to Norma of Sweden asked about if they run some 6*68 brass anytime soon. THe reply was that they only make loaded ammo.

I do believe we indicated as much...

- mike

I dont understand, what did you indicate; that I sent a mail to Norma?

STIG

Short memory Stig - I hope you get your brass.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...741023811#7741023811

- mike

I stand corrected, short memory indeed.

STIG

Wow! $420 + $20 shipping for a "case". I assume that is 250 pcs.

I'm going to have to find something to sell to afford that being on a fixed income & all.

I was hoping to get 100 cases to start

Yeow!! Two bucks a case is about what I figured.
Real Cedar shafting? I shoot a Howard Hill Tembo
these days. Rose City is getting a pretty penny for theirs as well.

Perhaps some fine person will go "half-ies" with you. I just have two more smallbores on my CZ wish list. 300H&H and a 6.5x68S.

Good Luck with your quest! Did you see the Martini & Hagn ad in the classifieds yet?

Rich

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Yeow!! Two bucks a case is about what I figured.
Real Cedar shafting? I shoot a Howard Hill Tembo
these days. Rose City is getting a pretty penny for theirs as well.

Perhaps some fine person will go "half-ies" with you. I just have two more smallbores on my CZ wish list. 300H&H and a 6.5x68S.

Good Luck with your quest! Did you see the Martini & Hagn ad in the classifieds yet?

Rich

I used to buy about 13,000 shafts a year direct from Rose City.

I bought everthing I could direct & in bulk, selling to DIY arrow makers to keep my costs down.

I also bought direct from True Flite, Bohning, Zwickey & Magnus to name a few.

That price on the 8X68S brass was from Mandy Martini. I wish I had bought up a several hundred 8X68S cases from Hirtenberger when they were $45 a hundred!

According to Midways website they have loaded Norma 8X68S in stock ready to ship.

quote:

Originally posted by ron williams:
According to Midways website they have loaded Norma 8X68S in stock ready to ship.

Yeah, @ $77.99 for a box of 20.

That's only $3.90 a pop.

quote:

Originally posted by wildcat junkie:

quote:

Originally posted by ron williams:
According to Midways website they have loaded Norma 8X68S in stock ready to ship.

Yeah, @ $77.99 for a box of 20.

That's only $3.90 a pop.

Some times you have to pay to play. The 8X68 brass in Norma and RWS is some heavy duty stuff, I suspect with a little care it will last a long time.