Just kidding.

We need a light hearted thread on clips, so here goes:

I have decided to have my favorite classic double rifles modified to accept clips and magazines. who needs only two shots?

I have opened my mind and decided to have my Winchester Model 70 modified so I can use a different clip for each OAL. They dont shoot straight enough to just use 6 shots.

And I have shredded the lower actions from my two prewar german Mausers to get rid of the floor plate so I can make custom banana clips that will allow feeding a dozen rounds. Never know when a 8X57 will again be needed in an assault situation.

And I have decided to laugh more about people and things that really are matters of taste and not correctness.

as to why clips would bring on such opinionation:

Because it is about guns and people like what they got for the reasons we got it.

Believe it or not, it has already been done. During WWI, the Germans produced a 20 round magazine that replaced the floorplate on the 98 Mauser. They had a small chain to that clipped to the triggerguard to prevent loss, much like the British SMLE.

jameister-Maybe you should try a belt feed instead.That way you could hunt all year without having to reload.Just keep joining on more belts as you need them.You wouldn't lose anything either.

stubblejumper, hmmm, a belt feed on a Sako? Orion's not gonna like this!

Jamister,
I think folks are anti clip, because they have fallen out at inopertune times, that is a documented fact in many articles and experiences, they have all been listed, and they makes since to me so I choose not to use them...

But to each his own and you certainly have every right to use them as do all the clip supporters, but the question was asked and it was answered as to opinnions..

I think we should all keep in mind that when you ask a question on these boards or anywhere else, you should not become distrought over the answers as YOU are the one who asked..If you already had your mind made up then there was no reason to ask the question IMO, and your merely starting an arguement at that point..We have all done that, but it is not the thing we should do IMO...Not trying to start anything just my thought process at the time concerning your question.

Ray, I'm with you. But you have to admit, sometimes it's fun to watch.

Stokin' the fire:

Aren't they "magazines", not "clips"?

Hmmmm...how many .500 Jefferies would fit in one of those 20-round German detachable magazines?

SDS,

Simple!! 20 rounds always fit in a 20 round magaziine

Ray: you are a wit among whits.

I have never spit out so much scotch as I just did.

who is buried in Grants Tomb?

Does this dress make me look fat?

how many rounds fit in a 20 round clip?

Its as bad as the worst question ever asked as we set off to raft the Colorado River through the Grand Canyon:

In all innocence, a woman asked, looking out at the river:

"Which way do we go?"

answer:

downstream, ma'm.

If I'm hunting pasture on foot all day, or a few hours north hunting moose or elk, where the day starts and ends on foot, rifle in hand,in the bush all day, a clip is no big advantage.

However, I live in farming country, and while I do some all day hunting on foot in pastures, much of the hunting is pushing deer out of bluffs, in stubblefields. There may be 3 small 2 acre bluffs on a quarter section, hundreds of yards apart. To walk the hundreds of yards between each bluff achieves nothing except to let the deer slip out the other side while you are walking up to the bluff.

The usual method is to drive up near the bluffs, get into position, and have pushers walk through.
This might be done 20 times in a day. some bluffs will be 20 acres, some will be less than one. The smallest ones often hold the biggest bucks.

To load and unload 20 times in a day, with a hinged floorplate, is a pain, and a tubular magazine is a REAL pain. Since the area where I live is 95% stubble with bluffs, this is the normal way of hunting. May sound not-too-sporting, but you hunt them the way the terrain dictates. For this type of hunting, a clip is very convenient. Most people in my area prefer clips for this reason.

In the bush, a clip presents no real disadvantage, and since I've never lost one, in 25 years of hunting, I don't see that as a concern.

Good luck with your project

[ 05-19-2003, 16:26: Message edited by: Johnny Ringo ]

I quite agree with Atkinson. I'm not saying this post is an example however. There are too many posts that seem to promote sarcasm, name calling and juvenile behavior. It is usually just a few people who seem to thrive on controversy, and the remainder of us have to bear them. Being out and out contrary serves no ones best interest. There. I fel better for getting that off my chest. Best wishes to all.

Cal - Montreal

Maybe the whole mag./no mag. controversy is an eastern vs western hunting thing. I only hunt in the western states & most of it is walking not tree climbing or driven hunts. I have never understood the passion for a mag. in a hunting rifle. In a defensive/offensive rifel where firepower & a quick reload are req'd. I would certainly rather have a mag. fed, semi-auto over a bolt gun any day.

I live in the west also but we do organize drives and a detatchable mag is handy when you are in and out of vehicles moving from one drive location to another.

YOU CAN always tell who favors what in pretty much any circumstance when the "speaker" does or does not use the proper nomenclature for what is being discussed.

People who have no problems with "magazines" use the term magazine.

To the unwashed unknowing everything is a "clip" , especially Hollyweird. To remove the confusion, even the gun companies have been marking the spares as clip/magazines

as for the internal magazines...I KNOW I have read of PHs carrying duct tape to make sure the internals don't pop a floor plate at a critical time, in several different books and "magazines" (the kind you read). If they are soooo perfect, why the duct tape????

Personally I use both kinds, even a third type with a lever gun "tubular magazine". Never had a bad experieince with any of them.

What strikes me as "interesting" as to reliability of systems. Virtually all combat man portable weapons have detachable magazines for use in life and death situations. Included in that is my duty Gold Cup and the shorty CAR I carry daily. I really don't feel disadvantaged by the situation or at risk.

Anybody see the pictures ever of a double barrel bolt action? I saw that one time, maybe you could get that to work with a magazine setup.

I have a couple of small bores that take magazines, all of my other rifles are bolt action internal magazine, cause they are all sporterized military. My brother has a 788 that is great, if I could find an action for one to build into a caliber I want then I wouldn't hesitate because it is detachable mag.

Red

No Lawcop, obviously you CAN't always tell.

I like clips. I use them. I don't call them magazines, because that is not what the average hunters where I live call them. Grew up calling them clips. I know the proper name is magazine...........and don't care. I'm still going to call them clips.

We don't call trucks "pickups" either. They're half-tons. We don't use "autoloaders"....it's "semis", and so it goes.

For some reason, that laid-back kind of nomeclature bugs the shit out of some of you. That's okay by me.

[ 05-28-2003, 15:58: Message edited by: Johnny Ringo ]

Lawcop......no reply??

C'mon........

DagoRed
Anybody see the pictures ever of a double barrel bolt action? I saw that one time, maybe you could get that to work with a magazine setup.

Look up Canadian Patent Database #2080712 double-barrel bolt action repeating firearm. I believe this is the action you may have seen. It was shown at the ACGG show about 3 or 4 years ago.