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I am putting in for draw moose and they are offering antelope tags.

Question:
Choosing to shoot in no wind, is the 7mm magnums best for a 700 yard shot or heavier bullets from the 338 Winchester Magnum?

Choices:
280 AI
7mm Remington Magnum
300 WSM
300 Winchester Magnum
300 Weatherby Magnum
338 Winchester Magnum

 
 
Posts: 1274 | Location: Saskatchewan, Canada.  | Registered: 22 August 2006Reply With Quote
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Sorry if these polls seem mindless to you. Truth is I am a cheap coffee and like to prepare for this falls hunt. Moose rifle is taken care of with the 270 Winchester and 150 Partitions.

Antelope rifle is going to have to be able to shoot past 500 yards. Which means probably an expensive scope such as the VX-2, 4-12x.
 
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Sorry if these polls seem mindless to you. Truth is I am a cheap coffee and like to prepare for this falls hunt. Moose rifle is taken care of with the 270 Winchester and 150 Partitions.

Antelope rifle is going to have to be able to shoot past 500 yards. Which means probably an expensive scope such as the VX-2, 4-12x.


For goodness sake, use your same 270 and 150 Partitions... my antelope rifle is always my elk rifle.
 
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Nothing wrong with the 270Win as I consider it an entry level beanfield rifle.


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Thanks guys.

If I can't get the 150 Partitions to shoot half MOA, I will try the 140 Accubond.
 
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300 H&H, loaded hot. All day every day.


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I've got to get a trigger work done on the 760.
 
Posts: 1274 | Location: Saskatchewan, Canada.  | Registered: 22 August 2006Reply With Quote
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I've got to get a trigger work done on the 760.


Those are junk, trigger job or not.


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There’s that green card again !
 
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I've got to get a trigger work done on the 760.


Those are junk, trigger job or not.


True.
 
Posts: 1274 | Location: Saskatchewan, Canada.  | Registered: 22 August 2006Reply With Quote
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Just stick with the .270.


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Antelope rifle is going to have to be able to shoot past 500 yards.


WHY?????

Have you ever hunted antelope before?


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Ive shot more antelope at 100 yards than any other range, some at 200 and 300 and one at 400..This long range stuff with sheep and antelope is a myth, unless you shoot at those ranges on purpose, They are not that hard to stalk as a rule..For long range I always liked m 300 H&H but I still seemed to shoot them very close.the stalk is name of the game IMO>


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Mr. Atkinson, I know this is a dumb question, but did you know Ross Seyfried?

I remember one of his articles about hunting Pronghorns and if memory serves me he was describing being interviewed by another writer and that person asked Ross something along the line of what was the farthest he had ever shot a Pronghorn.

It seems like Ross found a piece of paper and started writing dpown numbers and a short while later said something like 577 yards or something in that neighborhood.

The interviewer made some comment about the distance and Ross stated that it was the combined yardage of all the goats he had killed at that point in time?

If multiples of 100 yards is the ONLY way pronghorns can be killed, how do archers kill the damn things?


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So basically I should be focusing on the 270. Trigger job will work some creep out and change the optics. Sightron S1 at three hundred dollars would certainly enlighten the shooting experience.

My Dad's 760 currently wears a Ruko 3-9 40. It is like the old weaver scopes with flattened top and bottom sight picture. Almost like looking at 16x9 flatscreen.
 
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So the pronghorns spot you at 700 yards and sprint further out of range, preventing a closer shot? I think I'd check back with your information source for a fact-check.
 
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How often have you hunted Pronghorns?

I am curious?

Sorry Ray B, my comment was directed ar corey, not you.


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264 win mag with 142 grain long range accubonds works awesome with 28 inch barrel !
 
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I've shot several antelope, all under 300 yards, with a 270. Nosler ballistic tip, 130gr. There's no need to shoot 500 yards, in most cases.
 
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I am more interested in hearing about this fictional Antelope hunt where the wind won't be blowing.

I'm not positive on the FPE of energy I used on the last antelope I killed, but 85,000 lbs at 12 mph WAS plenty.
I think he was going about 35 mph when he slammed into the side of the big bright red 18 wheeled truck I was driving at the time..
 
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I have only shot 1 antelope beyond 300 yards. I could have gotten closer, quite a bit closer, but didn't. I'm not a fan of the .270. Nothing wrong with it, but all the hooplah people spout about it is a turn off.
Go with the .280AI or 7 mag. 150gr in the .280, 160gr in the 7mag.


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If it were me, I’d use the 130gr Accubond and keep my shots to 300yrds or less.

I would have no hesitation using my 25-06 with 110gr Accubonds in a heartbeat.

Cheers.
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Sad thing for me is that all the pronghorn I have shot were with a .30-06 with 165gr bullets...

I guess I need a new antelope gun.... not.
 
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Originally posted by ar corey:
Sorry if these polls seem mindless to you. Truth is I am a cheap coffee and like to prepare for this falls hunt. Moose rifle is taken care of with the 270 Winchester and 150 Partitions.

Antelope rifle is going to have to be able to shoot past 500 yards. Which means probably an expensive scope such as the VX-2, 4-12x.


For goodness sake, use your same 270 and 150 Partitions... my antelope rifle is always my elk rifle.


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I have only shot 1 antelope beyond 300 yards. I could have gotten closer, quite a bit closer, but didn't. I'm not a fan of the .270. Nothing wrong with it, but all the hooplah people spout about it is a turn off.
Go with the .280AI or 7 mag. 150gr in the .280, 160gr in the 7mag.


Yeah, the .270 and 150 grain nosler partitions suck and isn't much of a killer, even though I've killed whitetails, Muley's, caribou, elk, kudu, sable, Dall sheep, bears, zebra and Alaska-Yukon moose and other stuff I can't recall at the moment with it. Even Pronghorns!

I'm taking my .270 to Zambia this fall and plan to use it for everything smaller than eland, though I might shoot an eland with it too. A 150 Partition in the right place will kill an eland just fine, I'm thinking.
 
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Your 270 will do what the 7mmRM will do in the hunting field.

If you want "more", then a 338 WinMag awaits. Barnes now has a 250 grain LRX with a .600 BC. Hand load it to about 2700fps. For more velocity, try the CEB Lasers at 225gn, or the 225gn TTSX.


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I am more interested in hearing about this fictional Antelope hunt where the wind won't be blowing.


There was little or no wind when I shot my first three pronghorns two were in Wyoming and the third in the Texas panhandle.

There are such concepts as good binoculars and learning how to put on a stalk using the terrain.


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Nothing less than a 416 Rem Mag Improved with 400gr soft points to ensure a clean kill.

Forget those other sissy rifles


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In the last fifteen or so years, I haven't shot one over maybe 250 yards and most have been well under 100 yards.
Granted, I hunted the same general area and over time learned their habits. Also met a few residents over afternoon coffee.
I do like the 7mm Remington with 140-grain bullets, the rifle has kept a stable point of impact over about 30 years of use.
Don't waste a calm day on antelope, go fly fishing instead.


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Crazy Horse,
I know Ross well, have for some years..I like the guy, and he is knowledgable..You don't have to dislike a person because he disagrees with you!! Some folks just can't understand that.

Ive shot more Antelope with a 222 and a 6x45 than any other caliber..The ranch I had in Texas had a lot of Antelope on it..


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I have long enjoyed Mr. Seyfried's writings.


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I am more interested in hearing about this fictional Antelope hunt where the wind won't be blowing.


There was little or no wind when I shot my first three pronghorns two were in Wyoming and the third in the Texas panhandle.

There are such concepts as good binoculars and learning how to put on a stalk using the terrain.


Mornings at dawn are usually quite mild for wind in fall season in Saskatchewan where I live.
 
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I have shot exactly one antelope. I used my 264 Win Mag that was sighted in for 300 yards like the guide asked. I shot the antelope at 75 yards as he topped the slight hill we snuck up behind.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
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There was little or no wind when I shot my first three pronghorns two were in Wyoming and the third in the Texas panhandle.

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My question is: were you in Texas when you shot the two in Wyoming?

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If I couldn't get within 450 yds of an antelope I would pass on the shot.

All of my prairie goats were shot around 200 or so yards.

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Anything from .223 to .300WM works fine inside of 400 yards. I have shot 20 or so antelope, most with a .280REM or a .270Win.
 
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My question is: were you in Texas when you shot the two in Wyoming?


That would have been a hell of an accomplishment now wouldn't it. shocker,

The first two goats I shot were on a hunt in the southwestern corner of Wyoming in 1993. I got them with a .7mm Rem Mag.

The one I shot in Texas , was in 1996 on a drawing hunt put on by TP&W in the north western corner of the Texas Panhandle on the Rita Blanca Grasslands and then one was shot with my .300 Weatherby Mark V.

Then I shot a doe in Colorado outside of Craig with my .35 Whelen in 1997.


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Thanks guys.

If I can't get the 150 Partitions to shoot half MOA, I will try the 140 Accubond.


Try 130 or 140 ballistic tips, in 270.
I have shot quite a few of them with 100 grain BT in a 257 wby, at ranges to 400 plus yards


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Originally posted by Luckyducker:
Nothing wrong with the 270Win as I consider it an entry level beanfield rifle.


Agreed.

Going to try a couple boxes of store bought Vortex 270 Winchester 129 grain LR-X.
 
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More calibers capable....than capable shooters! memtb


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