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Guys, What animals have you guys actually taken with the 110 TTX in your 270's? My rifle just loves them and I'm considering this rifle for my antelope/mule deer hunt this October. THX Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | ||
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My brother used the Barnes 110 TTSX in his 270 WSM. A couple Antelope, a couple Mule Deer were no match for that bullet. They are extremely accurate in his rifle, fast and the bullets always exited. | |||
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I am slightly different. 30-06 using the 110 grain ttsx. I have culled a lot of whitetails with this load and it is devastating. Complete penetrations and all but one have had great hydrostatic/hydraulic effect. They are very accurate in my rifle and at 3500 fps, are moving right along. The results with the .270 should be identical. | |||
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I've killed 8-12 deer with them in a .270 Win. Every one a one shot kill. Zero lost deer. One of them, the bullet went through more bone than any deer I have ever killed. Very accurate, when the work up started giving me caliber wide by 1/2 inch high groups at 3170 I quit and went forth killing deer. They're about as close to perfect for killing deer as I have ever had available.They also have another 200-300 FPS available should I feel the need at some time. | |||
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I was with my nephew when he took a weighed 310 lb wild boar with a 6.8 spc and 110 TSX. Complete pass thru. I was amazed. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Interesting to hear. What is the trajectory of the 110 gr vs 130 gr, etc? Does it lose momentum and drop more at 300 yards? i.e. is there any disadvantage for the smaller animals like whitetail, etc.? | |||
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Trajectory to 300 is a little flatter than 130s. No disadvantage whatsoever for the 110 TTSX from my experience. All benefits. Much better penetration than any .277lead core bullet. | |||
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In 2016 I shot a buck antelope at 400 yards. It died, the bullet worked fine. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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I think the pass through with a Barnes bullet is standard. My question with this round would be it opening up at longer ranges as the velocity drops off. Has anyone had that problem? Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times. | |||
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I've never recovered a small bore TSX or TTSX bullet but my load is still traveling above 2,000 fps at 600 yards so I'm not worried about it. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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While I don't own a 270, I have killed multiple antelope/mule deer/whitetail with either my 243 using the 80 gr TTSX or 7mm-08 using the 120 gr TTSX. Even killed a couple cow elk with the 7-08. I'd have ZERO reservations using your proposed 270 Win with the 110 gr TTSX. Good luck!!! Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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Have only used the 110gr TSX. blackbuck, antelope, deer, hogs, Axis they work, 3250fps | |||
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The 110gnTTSX is a great bullet in the 270. My wife is relatively new to hunting. Here is what grandma did last year. The shot was 100-150yd, frontal. The animal ran into a neighboring ranch a short way just past sundown. We contacted the owner and went to find it the next morning. WOW! Talk about a destructive bullet OK. Maybe the bullet had some help. In this case a mountain lion had a midnight snack. Still, two years, two shots, two deer, 1 1/2 exits with the 110gn TTSX. We didn't look for the bullet in the mountain lion feed. Shot another deer and put her tag on that. 1 shot, pass through, too. 3 shots, 3 deer. Maybe the frontal shot was somewhere in the carcass. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Interesting thread. Are most of you 110 gn TTSX users shooting through 1 in 10 inch twist barrels, and getting good accuracy ? My standard .270W load is with 130 gn projectiles but this discussion has got me interested in trying this 110 gn Barnes. Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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My Ruger No. 1 has a 1:10" twist and "everyone" tells me that No. 1's prefer heavier bullets. I started with an assortment of 120 - 140 grain bullets and found that the lighter bullets kept shooting smaller groups. I tried the 110 g TTSX (even though they're as long as a 130 grain cup and core bullet) and they are magic in my gun. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Thankyou for that info Frank. Impressive accuracy with that load. Getting me a little excited ! Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing. | |||
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Mark, I shot two large bodied SD whitetails and a pronghorn antelope using 110 TTSX in my 270 Weatherby Magnum. They died very quickly. Blake | |||
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Thanks all for the input. I've settled on 58.5 gr of H4350. I'm chronographing tomorrow if there is little wind. I expect at least 3,300 fps. Accuracy has been stellar with all 3 shot groups under .5" and one at and honest .177. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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How did the load shoot, Mark? Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Frank, I want to shoot it over screens one more time. I'll take a load for a different rifle whose velocity I already know and shoot that rifle over the screens too before writing anything. The first go around was hard to believe. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Been there, done that. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Im satisfied with the old 130 and 150 gr. bullets in the .270..Bloodshot meat is always a primary concern with me..I tend to go heavy to combat ruined meat. For white tail last year a 180 gr. Nosler or 200 gr. Accubond in my 30-06 filled the bill just fine, mostly drop at the shot some ran 30 or so yards left good blood trails...I used the same loads on elk..nothing much changed except I could eat closer to the bullet hole..These were little Texas hill country deer, a very delicate and delisous meat..Ive used about every caliber I can think of on these deer while culling. Were susposed to cull 109 does every year. We shoot about half that many..All head shots unless we,are experimenting with bullets then double lung and heart shots.. I will shoot some with the 110 TTX, next season, but I have a notion they will be very destructive..The heavy TTX bullets don't seem to be very destructive and the deer run as much as 40 to 50 yards as a rule, but I like the results.. What is amazing is the Nosler partitions in 7x57, 30-06, 270 etc. They open pretty good at close range and at long range, they open quick and continue to open as they penetrate..About as perfect a bullet as I have tried on both elk and deer, with not a lot of blood shot meat as a rule and if kept off bone..Keeping bullets off bone is a good idea for the meat hunter.. Ive noticed a trend in todays hunters in that they don't eat wildgame, most make sauage out of it and give it to friends..even in Idaho,and the pacific N.W. not so much in Texas, probably because there are so damn many deer. Some of my grandkids don't like wild meat. My kids were raised on it and they like it..I wonder just how many on AR and other blogs actually eat a lot of wild game, although many claim to, Ive found most do not...Sign of the times perhaps?? Im sure its an acquired taste..I remember growing up all we ate was deer and elk, cattle got sold to keep the ranch going..At some point deer became a commodity and we switched to beef, man it took forever to get used to that greasy stuff!! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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My interests have turned mainly to varmint shooting, and way back when, because of my job, I couldn't hunt nearly as much as I wanted. But I have a story. Back in the '90s, I took a deer in Indiana. I retrieved the meat from my butcher a day or two before Thanksgiving. For our largish celebration, I decided to go all-out: a REALLY expensive rib roast, a turkey, and a roast from my deer. The day before, having never eaten venison, both our kids expressed their disgust at the mere thought of doing so. But that evening I sautéed medallions of the tenderloin with some onions in butter (for myself). The kids smelled what was happening and decided they wanted to try a bite . . . or two, or three, or . . . Thanksgiving evening, I laid out our spread of meat (and side dishes) and to my delight, the venison (4 lbs of it?) disappeared almost instantly. My VERY expensive rib roast was almost intact and the turkey virtually untouched. I will never forget that. | |||
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Some families are different than others I guess. At our house we eat Deer, Elk, Antelope, Halibut and Salmon about 5 days a week. My kids and I enjoy hunting and enjoy the meat. I do like a good Ribeye from time to time. | |||
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Ok! Chronographed the 270 110 TTSX load a 2nd time. First go round with 58.5 gr H 4350 gave 3581, 3581 and 3584. Needless to say I was impressed or figured my new chronograph was giving me bogus info. A couple days ago I took 5 rifles to the range and chronographed loads for them all. Two of those rifles and loads I have shot many times before. Those two rifles and loads gave speeds less than 50 higher than they had when I left Cody, Wyoming at 5000 feet elevation and 30 degrees less temperature than here in Vegas. The 270 with the 110 TTSX load clocked 3601, 3604 and 3605 this time using a different lot of bullets. Call BS if you like but this fall I'm trying out this death ray on a mule deer and a couple antelope. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Those are some impressive velocities Plus they seem to shoot very well I have not paid much attention to the TTX bullet line are they flat based or boat tails. | |||
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I'm nowhere near maximum at 3337 fps. My loads were just test loads and they shot so well that I didn't try to get maximum velocity out of them.
The TTSX are boat tails. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Before the Obammacare extortion/tax man put the touch on me, I had an older Belgium BAR .270 that shot the Federal factory/110TTSX right at 3500fps into very tiny groups. I was impressed, but never got to kill anything with it. I have shot some game with the 240W/90x at 3500 and it was wicked also. I shot the 100TSX/257BEE/3500 and it was also a real killer. Seems to me the 110TTSX and similar put the old .270 in their league! I had to sell my treasures, but my SIL has a nice .270 I had made up for him, I'm giving him my left over factory loads. We'll see how his likes them. have a ball friend! | |||
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As far as killing I more that sure you have a death rey..I wonder how far they will hold up and the heavy bullets will pass them up however, but I have no idea, Be interested in your results, and may try something like that with the 30-06..I shot one deer with a 110 gr. cup and core and never shot another, its was nasty.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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The 110 TTSX will do fine on deer. My wife uses them in her 270. It's a different technology from cup and core. She's used them for two years. Two shots, two deer. One DRT, one ran about 50 yards. (The 50-yard-runner was a facing shot.) Good deer bullet. The old 110gn cup-n-cores were designed for varmints and small game as a splatter bullet. A monolithtic is designed to hold together for deer and will basically penetrate like an old 130 grain cup-n-core in .277". Of course, if were going to include elk in the overall hunt, then I would recommend moving up to the 129gn LRX in .277". The same advice for shooting over 500 yards, but then I wouldn't advise shooting over 500 yards. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I really like monometal bullets and have exclusively used TSX bullets going back to '04 or '05 with 2 exceptions: 250 gr A frames in '13 for my 340 Wby at the insistence of my outfitter for brown bear and in '16 when I decided to try 110 gr GS customs in my 270 Win for a sheep hunt. I had originally ordered 130 gr GS customs as that weight was all I had ever used in my 270 going back to the old interlocks. But Gerard personally emailed me and Bottom line: 110 gr monometal in a 270 (whether TSX or GS, etc) will give you more than what you need. Monometals are easy to reload, just pick your velocity, get there and then seat to close up your groups. They are pretty damn accurate and can take the extra velocity (hence the lower weights). There are two types of people in the world: those that get things done and those who make excuses. There are no others. | |||
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Well, nobody wants to eat wasted meat resulting from a blown-to-shit wound. Especially those really picky jazboes who frequent the homeless shelters in the fall, when deer hunters show up to donate fresh venison for the "Hunters for the Hungry" program. Very picky about what's being served up. Not sayin' it's right; just a word to the wise. All The Best ... | |||
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Hydell To clarify - it's the cup-n-core lightweights that splatter and ruin meat. Bullet placement is critical too. Last year lost some backstrap, tenderloin and rump bexause of an over-penetrating 338. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I see ... Thanks. All The Best ... | |||
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Sour-cream stroganoff is near-perfect for introducing a greenhorn to antelope... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I wonder how fast they would go out of my 270 Weatherby with a 26" barrel? I'm getting 3150 fps with 150g Partitions with zero high pressure signs. It would be hard for me to change bullets though. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Im well aware of the monolithic bullet, just added the cup and core kill some 50 years or more ago in regards to blood shot meat. 110 gr. monolithics should be very destructive was my point.. BTW, I have used the 130 gr. 30-06 GS Custom bullet on elk and they are the equal of the 150 gr. Barnes or nosler, that's high praise IMO and penetrate about like one would expect from a 180 gr. bullet of any brand. My experience with monolithics is in std. weight bullets such as the 150 and 180 gr. 30-06 or the 130 or 150 gr. 270 is they are not any more destructive on meat than the old cup and cores or any other bullet, but if you use a 110 gr. on either, I would suspect they could be horrific?? so you guys that have been using suh bullets at ultra high velocity please address that subject..I have always been under the opinion that velocity and velocity alone is the villain of blood shot ruined meat. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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So Ray, How many animals have you killed with the 110gr T/TSX out of a 270? Some of us have BTDT, they flat work. You can muse, and reach for conclusions from all of your past experience. I will go with actual experience. I have shot many animals with monolithic bullets and they cause less bloodshot meat IMO than NP's or standard cup and cores. As a side note: I process all my animals here in the states and have watched the African skinners in action. Last year alone, antelope to elk, 10 total. Nosler BT's to monolithics. Have been doing this for many years and hundreds of animals. | |||
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Although I've never had a Barnes bullet fail I had two Cutting Edge Bullets Raptor ER monometals fail in Africa in 2016 resulting in significant bloodshot meat. The worst was a 200 meter shot on a bushbuck, where the 230 grain brass HP exploded on the shoulder joint and failed to penetrate to the vitals. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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I shot RL17 and RL16 in my new Sako A7 270 win first load was 56.5gr of both powders. Seemed a very mild load with the 110gr TTSX bullets. I got 3401fps with RL17 and 3400fps with the RL216 Used win cases and CCI200 primers OAL was 3.260. Got about 50fps less with a 1952 Model 70. Both were very accurate will try some other loads soon. | |||
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