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What a dumbass. Does he put diesel in his gasoline-powered car because it's cheaper, too? George | ||
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Dago, Really he took it pretty well. The range officer told him to put his rifle back in the case and to take it and several of the fired cases and unfired ammo into the office. In hopes that the gunsmith and manager in there could get through to him. I showed him his fired case vs a 300 Wby case on the ground. He could see the difference but, couldn't understand the issue. It fit and fired!! We couldn't get through to him. We were on levels to far apart. LOL Told him that he didn't have to buy Wby brand ammo but that he did need ammo in 300Wby. Hopefully the office got through to him. He claimed to have been shooting the rifle for several years. This year he wanted to save a $$. There sure isn't much neck left on the 300 win. LOL | |||
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Some people should not be allowed to breed. | |||
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Several years back I had the exact same experience. This guy's brand new Weatherby outfitted with a new Leupold was shooting poor groups. I tried to help him only to find he was shooting 300 Win Mag factory ammo in his 300 Weatherby. Same as your guy, he said that those darned Weatherby shells just cost too much. He had a brand new rifle and scope that were top dollar, but the ammo was too high??? Those 300 Win Mag cases sure looked strange after firing in the Weatherby chamber. Some guys just don't get it. R F | |||
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As Bill Engvall would say, Heeerree's your sign. It's people like this that fuel Hilary's arguments. | |||
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Wow, sounds like this guy was stupid AND stubborn. Always a healthy combo...  | ||
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I've come accross more than one fired 300 Wetherby case that had a real short neck, and a 300 Win headstamp ;-) One of my favorite bumper stickers reads, "Stupidity should be painful" It's fully understandable why Hornady/Marlin came out with the 450 Marlin and not a 458X2", no doubt some dumma would be convinced his 7mm mag could be used as an extruder by starting with a 458X2" round  | |||
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Quote: NOT ANY MORE...... | |||
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It can get confusing . When Remington tried to revive the 280 they renamed it the 7mm express.There was immediate confusion between the 7mm express and the 7mm magnum so they dropped the express name ! | |||
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Must be an epidemic. Some brain child shot at least a half box of .300 Win. in a .300 Wby in the range of the gun shop/indoor range I work at just a few days ago. I found them while I was scrounging through the brass bucket. This happens fairly often. A couple months ago another rocket scientist came in and asked me for a box of 7mm Weatherby. He commenced to tell me about how he wasn't getting decent accuracy from his rifle. He then went back to the range. A little while later I walked back to get a drink out of the machine and he and our range guy were looking at his target. His 25 yard group was a decent group; if it had been shot at 200 yards. I figured the guy just couldn't shoot. A little while later he comes up front with the rifle in his hands with the range guy behind him. Rick {range guy} says "I'm gonna make sure his mounts are tight." When I saw the rifle from 15 feet away I said "Don't bother Rick, he's shooting the wrong ammo, that's a 7mm REMINGTON Mag!" The guy said "No it's not, it's a Weatherby!" His gun was a Vanguard VGL and I knew for a fact that gun was never chambered in 7mm Weatherby. We showed him 7mm Rem. Mag. on the chamber and finally showed him the error of his ways. He had spent a fortune on Weatherby ammo over the previous months trying to get his gun to shoot. | |||
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Quote: Some people are the reason God invented evolution! | |||
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Quote: AMEN!!  | ||
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I was once at a public range located at a fish and wildlife area. I was doing some load work with a muzzle loader on the 50yd range when this "Gomer" shows up with a "custom" Stevens break top pistol complete with a full length curly maple fore-end and scope. Nobody had told this "genius" about intermediate or long eye relief (AKA "pistol) scopes so there he was holding this pistol up 4" from his eye sighting through the scope. He was using a 2 hand hold with one hand holding the "custom" fore-end. I left immediately and went to the 100yd range. (there was a 15' earthen berm seperating the ranges) About 10 minutes later a guy comes up and informs us that "Gomer" had just shot himself in the finger! We went back to the now abandoned 50yd range where we observed blood spattered all over the support posts and roof of the firing line. It looked like pretty good "spurting" had occurred from arterial bleeding. If you haven't guessed already, "Gomer", while using his "two handed" grip, had gotten his finger over the end of the barrel, sending a .22 rimfire bullet through the end of his finger. I'll bet that really hurt. | |||
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The scarey part is that these "Sportsmen" are out in woods "huntin" with the rest of us. It's just like John Kerry being a goose hunter. It makes me shiver. Jeff | |||
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Some people should not have a driver's license. Some people should not have power tools. Some people should not have children. Some people should not be allowed into movie theatres or sporting events. Some people should not have knives, pens, pencils or other sharp objects. etc. On a more serious note: Even though I have lived in the Great White North for 31 years now, I grew up in northern Cal and Oregon. There, one had to pass a Hunter Safety course to get a license. The course included knowledge of guns and ammunition and safety procedures re: same. I assumed that this is the case with other states, as it is here in Canada. Yes? | |||
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I was at the range when some bozo shot a 7mm Rem. Mag in a 300 WBY. What was even worse was that bozo was me. That case still sits on my desk to remind me to double check the round every time. Thank god it was a smaller caliber than the barrel. In five decades of shooting, that was one of two "Gomer" moments for me. | |||
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your not the first to grab the wrong bullet, maybe the first to admit it. I shot a 7 mag in a 338 once. Its easy to make a mistake when you are in a hurry, or haveing problems with a gun or scope or even had a argument with your wife or whatever. I try to be much more careful, but we as humans do make mistakes. | |||
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Even scarier than the fact that those people can own guns, is the fact that they can vote | |||
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There is a saying "only in America". Alas we have these types in Australia too ! | |||
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A friend of my son got the bullet weight confused with the black powder charge weight for his muzzleloader. 400 plus grains of black powder took his hand off at the tender age of 19 and was lucky to not to be blinded as well or worse. Thirty years ago a friend of mine loaded 338 Win Mags with a flake powder later determined to be 2400 that was in a coffee can marked 3031. Being left handed he lost his right hand and he too was fortunate not to be blinded or dead. | |||
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I had a Glock 20 in a 10mm as you know not to much factory ammo around so of course I reloaded for it shot a couple hundred rounds through no problem sometimes the slide would not go all the forward so I would just tap it forward and shoot it no problems. Well one day I was at the range here on post shooting it along with some other guns put a magazine through it no problems grabbed another mag and started shooting well the slide didn't go all the way forward on the last round did the usual tapping didn't help had to force it to close, you would of thought my dumbass would of relized something was up got the slide closed and shot it lets see the magazine blew out of the gun the whole lower part was a mess couldn't get the slide open had speckles of blood on my face, I thank the lord it was the last round in the magazine no telling what would of happened if there was rounds still left in the magazine. Found what was left of the magazine on the ground have know idea where the spring went, far as I know it is still bouncing around Ft. Huachuca. Got home got the slide off the internals of the lower half were destroyed. Sent it back to Glock had to buy a new barrel for 120 bucks cause the old one had hair line factures, the Guy at glock told me they completely rebuilt the gun afterwards I traded it off and bought me a 1911. What happened the case ruptured where there is no case support from the barrel. | |||
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I gotta admit I accidently did a similar thing a while ago when I was a young(er) fella. I was shooting my old 303 and a mate was shooting his 30-30. I lined up on a pig but the shot didnt sound quite right and the pig ran off. I didnt think anything of it until my mate showed me the case. It was a 30-30 with no neck anymore. In the excitement ,I had grabbed some of his 30-30 shells and fitted one into my 303. Lucky it wasnt the 303-25 which another freind had. I,m a lot more carefull now that freinds have similar type calibers to me. | |||
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One fall I worked in a gun shop in Las Vegas, New Mexico for a couple of months while awaiting orders to report for active duty in the Army. We had reloading equipment in the shop, and one of the owner's buddies loaded himself some shotgun shells one day. We later heard that this genius "had had an accident" while shooting some of these shells. One of them had burst the lower barrel of the 12 Ga. O/U shotgun he had been shooting them in. A 3" long shard off the barrel went completely through his forearm and penetrated the steel hood of the car he had been standing beside when he fired. Fortunately, there was a person with him, who drove him immediately to a nearby hospital, preventing him from bleeding to death at the range. Later we disassembled the remaining shells, and found that both the amount of powder and amount of shot in the shells varied widely, and some charges were quite excessive. As the reloading press he had used was a progressive, set up to throw a skeet load of Red Dot and 1 oz. of No. 9 shot, we asked the guy what he had done. He said that the powder charges of a number of the shells he'd loaded "looked too small" and he had taken a pinch of the powder out of the hopper and sprinkled it into the shell until it "looked to be enough"!! If the guy had been shooting these bombs in a pump or auto instead of a O/U that had a massive breech section, he probably would have lost his head! This guy shot himself accidentally with his .22 rifle the following year. Despite a collapsed lung, he survived this accident also, and later removed a forefinger while using his power saw!~ (He was a "carpenter"!!) | ||
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Well right now I can only afford 1 rifle = 1 caliber . no problems - I am lucky tho - have seen amny of these "accidents" at various ranges too. Makes a man stop and think once in a while don't it? | |||
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.270 Win shot from a .35 Whelen. Nice load - very low recoil but inaccurate as hell!!!  | |||
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Quote: You could at least tell everyone you were just fireforming cases. | |||
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My 264 only went 1650f/s when shot in a 308Norma. | |||
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Many yrs ago, a guy I worked with wanted to go shoot, I picked him up and we went to the pistol range. He wanted me to shot some of his handloads in my 357, I declined, I knew he hadnt been loading long and still to this day only shoot my loads. He really wanted me to shoot some of his loads, he was quite proud of the fact he could now load his own bullets and etc. He left me a box in my truck. I had no intention of shooting them, didnt want to hurt the guys feelings. I figured I would pull a bullet or two, figured they were on the hot side watching him shoot and even made comment he might want to not shoot them, didn't want the guy to hurt himself or anybody else. Well I forgot to pull the bullets, forgot to get rid of them. Took them to the range yrs later not remembering where they came from, same plastic box as mine. The first two were normal, third didn't seem right, brain kicked in after the fourth, thats when I remembered. The first one I pulled when I got home, had 16 gr of blue dot, the next couple I pulled were somewhere in between. Swelled the cylinder on my dan wesson. | |||
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I know a old timer from texas that will try and start a full on argument with you that the new chrysler jeeps are still "realy made by Willys" . This guy will call you a stupid idiot and get real mad if you try and tell him that jeeps arnt made by willys anymore. | |||
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308 in a 358... WAS for fireforming brass... hit paper at 50.... hit dirt at 100 jeffe | |||
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Well, If we all were honest, I'd bet we've all screwed at least once in our shooting carreer. I did have a minor (?) faux pas a while back. I was sighting in two rifles just before the last deer season. One was a .308 Win., the other a 30-06. I was working with the 06 and a really nice group was forming. The next round also went into the group. As that was the last shot to see if the gun was sighted in. I picked up the brass and was shocked to see two very funny looking cases on the bench. Sure as hell, I'd loaded two rounds of .308 into the 06. Both ammo boxes were on the bench, and both were Winchester silver colored boxes. Both were open and I was pulling ammo from a box and single loading the gun. What was amazing is the group was just as tight as if I'd been shooting all 30-06 ammo. That's the last time I have two similar boxes opened on the bench at the same time. That could have turned out to be a disaster. Paul B. | |||
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Quote:I guess you could REALLY BE CONFIDENT in the zero of that rifle!! | ||
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Quote: Screw-ups, accidents, brain-farts that we all have committed are not done intentionally. Most of us know better than to put a 308Win round in a 30-06 rifle. The incident in the original post is different in that the "shooter" deliberately fired the wrong ammo. | |||
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What difference does it make if someone deliberately uses the wrong ammo in his ignorance, or mistakes ammo from one box to be ammo from another box? Either condition can be a recipe for disaster. Hopefully, bringing all these points out and admitting a screw up will help keep others from doing the same thing. Safety! That should be the point of all these comments. Paul B. | |||
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I've seen the same thing a few years ago at the range, someone using .300 Win Mag ammo in a .300 WBY chamber. | |||
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Yes, and I well remember people who could not/would not accept the concep[t that the .308 Winchester and the .308 Norma Magnum were NOT interchageable! "Hell, it's a 308, ain't it??" | ||
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NOW THATS G-D SCARRY!!!!! | |||
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Quote: His name wasn't "Lucky",...was it? | |||
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