Hello,
I have been thinking of getting a 350 RM in a Ruger 77. I currently shoot a 7mm RM and was wondering how the recoil compared between the two?

Thanks for any info,

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Hello!

have one buillt on a Rem.673 action. 24" lothar walther barrel. leupold european-30 3-9X40 scope. Recoil not bad at all,if you are used to 30-06 level recoil.
In my opinion recoil in my .350 comparable to .300 mag in similar gunweight. Full power loads with 250 grs bullets will get your attention,but fully manageable. This is in fact my favourite gun,and .350 RM with Swift a-frame 250 grs bullets my favourite moose gun.

BMW5

I don't shoot a 7mm, so I can't answer your question directly. However, I have a Rem 673 in .350, and normally shoot a 250 gr. Nosler Partition over a book-max load of W748, for a purported (not chrono'd by me and almost certainly overstated) velocity of 2570.

Recoil isn't bad at all. I shoot it off a bench all the time. It's certainly milder than my 12 gauge 870 with slugs.

I cant tell much difference between a Ruger 7mmRemMag (thin boat-paddle stock, rock hard pad) and my Ruger 350RemMag. The stock is pretty good as is the pad fitted ... though a Decelerator would be better.
Fantastic rifle/cartridge combination but some wont feed factory ammunition very well. A VERY easy touch up of the rails fixes that.
Cheers...
Con

250gr loads will get your attention but the 200gr to 225gr loads are noticably easier on the shoulder.

My gun feeds 200gr Remington handloads fine, don't know why it would not feed factory. It may be a 'gun to gun issue' and not across the board but I have heard it mentioned before.

Mine is for sale by the way. 225's seem to be the way to go unless after Grizzly/Moose or bigger and then a 250 might be desired. Recoil is similar I believe compared to 7mag of equal design and weight.

I've been hunting with a .350 RM since the early 90s..before that I used a Ruger #1 .375 H&H so the recoil was step "down". It is about the same I would say as the 7mm Magnum depending of course on what rifle you are comparing it to...of rifles of the same make and model I would say you won't tell much difference.

From a 22" barrel 220 grain Speer Hot Core and 225 Nosler Petitions run 2660 with 60 grains of WW748. From a 18.5" M600 barrel they run 2530. My friend has killed 3 black bear with his M673 using the Speer 220 with three shots. Two dropped dead in place and one was down and could not move but was still alive and was finised off.

This is the only bullet recovered so far.. Broke the shoulder joint of a 265# black bear and went down through the lungs. The bullet was found under the skin opposite the entrance. As the shot was only at 25 yards from the muzzle impact velocity was probably 2600 fps.



Started off with a M700 Classic in about 1991 and have since sold that gun and bought a M600 as it is just handier and have noticed no difference in recoil. Just bought a Ruger M77MKII All-Weather that had the barrel shortened to 18.25" and New England Custom Gun sights put on. This was posted over on the 24HourCampfire...



http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?C...PSESSID=#Post1024061

Bob

Just ran some 200 grain factory loads through the action of the M77..smooth as silk...no problems at all.

Bob

Just loaded up a bunch of test rounds with several different 250 grain bullets for the M77... The Ruger box magazine and ejection port will take ammo with a LOA of 2.840". The Remington M600, M7 and M673 only the factory spec of 2.800".

At 2.840" the rounds feed smoothly from the magazine and eject when still loaded. From the test rounds made up with the Speer 250 HotCore, Speer 250 Grandslam, Hornady 250 SpirePoint and the Hawk 250 semi point, the Hawk seats with the least bullet protruding below the neck of the case....the Hornady the most.

Did discover that the Ruger has a much shorter lead into the rifling than the Remington rifles do. An old VERY round nose Speer 250 would feed and seat fine in the M600 at 2.795" but had to be seated to 2.740" before it would clear the lands of the Ruger.

Bob

I have one of the new ruger M77 mkII ss 350's, and it's become my favorite rifle. To me the factory 200 gr loads had pretty stiff recoil, but my handloads with 225's weren't nearly as bad, and accuracy is outstanding, consistant sub moa 3 shot groups. I'd say recoil is on par with a 7 mag, though not as sharp.

That said recoil has alot to do with the weight of a rifle and the stock design. If you have a light 7 mag with a stiff recoil pad or steel plate, then a 350 would be milder in comparison. If you have a heavy 7 mag with a cushy pad, you might find the 350 a bit stiffer.

All said and done, the 350 has a moderate level of recoil. You can shoot it from any field position and ignore it, but burning up a few boxes of ammo of the bench will get to you. I always use a past mag recoil pad for benchwork, takes out all the sting.

A factory MKII 350RM weighs 7lbs. Shooting a 250PT @ 2500fps will yield a recoil energy of 34 foot-pounds and a recoil velocity of 17fps. Add one pound for scope and rings will reduce those numbers to 30/15.

A factory MKII 7RM weighs 7.25lbs. Shooting a 160PT @ 2950fps will yield a recoil energy of 28 foot-pounds and a recoil velocity of 15fps. Add one pound for scope and rings will reduce those numbers to 25/13.

Increase/Decrease rifle weight, bullet weight, bullet velocity and/or powder charge will increase/decrease the recoil from above figures.

GVA

I've never shot a 7mm mag before, so the comparison is lost on me, but all things being equal (rifle weight, stock design, etc.), how does the recoil of the .350 mag compare to a .338 win mag?

Recoil is something that has a lot of factors to consider. Wight of the rifle, stock design, recoil pad, bullet weight and velocity of the load. I know with my .375 H&H Ruger #1 I could shoot 270 grain and under bullets all day long...start feeding it 300s and it became very unpleasant after just a few.

I have only shot my friends .338 a few rounds with 210 grain Nosler Petition bullets. His rifle is a M70 that has a HS Precision stock that takes up recoil real well...don't find any difference between it and the the .350, if anything the .350 is a little more pleasant to shoot.

In weighing my 18" Ruger 77MKII with Ruger stainless rings, Leupold 1.5-5 scope and Uncle Mikes Mountain sling on an electronic fish scale it shows 8 pounds 12 oz...no lightweight for sure. The M600 I also have outfitted with the same scope and sling with steel Leupold QD mounts goes 8 pounds 2 oz.

Bob

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
I've never shot a 7mm mag before, so the comparison is lost on me, but all things being equal (rifle weight, stock design, etc.), how does the recoil of the .350 mag compare to a .338 win mag?

A factory MKII 338WM weighs 7.75lbs. Shooting a 250PT @ 2660fps will yield a recoil energy of 40 foot-pounds and a recoil velocity of 18fps. Add one pound for scope and rings will reduce those numbers to 36/16.

Keep in mind that the 350RM is usually built on a shorter action w/ a shorter barrel than the 338WM and therefore is generally lighter out of the box.

GVA

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
I've never shot a 7mm mag before, so the comparison is lost on me, but all things being equal (rifle weight, stock design, etc.), how does the recoil of the .350 mag compare to a .338 win mag?

It's milder than a 338, but still gets your attention. If both guns were the same weight, it would be notably milder, but if you're comparing a lighter 350 rem mag, I'd say they are in the same ball park. The 338 does have a slightly sharper recoil pulse though.