I think that I will probably scream out loud if I read another quote by someone that suggests this or that is "a more inherent cartridge" than another! Anyone else feel the same way? I guess that I'm a "hands-on" kind of a guy and have always done my own load work-ups. I have never seen any rifle that would not shoot accurately when I did my part (read as time, effort, and practice.) I guess that my real pet peeve has to do with quotes pulled from the latest rifle or hunting or reloading rag suggesting things like this and then seeing them requoted as fact by those who pick up the notion that this is now the gospel! How in the world could you tell? Does Snap-On Tool Company make and sell a meter that you can measure "inherent accuracy" with? End of Rant!
For those of you that thought this post might have to do with my being runover by a marauding grizzly, etc., I apologize. I entered this post here as a result of all the hype surrounding the Win. and Rem. short action rounds which (by the way,) I like.
best,
bhtr

Not sure I agree with you entirely, bearhunter, however, I think that accuracy is far, far more dependent on the rifle itself, and the load used, rather than what cartridge it is chambered for.

Regards,

Chad

Yep thats correct grbass; Except you have to ask yourself why comp shooters would always prefer 308 to a 30-06 etc. I think there is something to a inherent accurate cartridge??

You know, I USED to believe it was the gun, not the cartridge.

Then I started chrono-ing my PPC loads. When you get an ES of over 120 with your 223, and then an ES of 12 with the PPC, you slowly start coming around to the fact that, yes, there is a difference. JMO, Dutch.

Granting that there is something to the more inherently accurate/less inherently accurate case design thinking, I'd pay a lot more attention to it if it were reasonably consistent. It seems as if I run across a rifle in a long tapered cartridge that's disgustingly accurate just often enough to make me wonder if it really is the case design, or if its just the gods of accuracy demonstrating that they have a sense of humor

Regards,

Chad

The cartridges with short, fat powder columns seem to be easier to get to shoot well than ones with long slim powder columns. But, there are very few cartridges that are ALWAYS BAD performers as far as accuracy goes. Even a .22 Hornet can usually be made to shoot decently, if one wishes to put in the time and effort to find a good load.

For most shooters, the advantage of a short fat case is not really a issue. The first things that need to be perfect before anything else is shooter ability and rifle ability. In the benchrest community, where shooter skill is equal as a are most rifles thats when you see the PPC case come into play.
But for all the hunters and average joe, the advantage is secondary.

Good gracious,Lets assume that you are all right,that there is a cartridge to make everyone happy.Don't you just love to go to the range and shoot?I have many rifles,some are my pets,but all of them give me joy once I'm down at the bench.True I don't keep rifles that shoot over 1/2",except a little #7.308.I don't like getting into conversations about best,flatest,longest range etc.Just as I would not tell someone what car he should buy.I quess that's what makes it all so different.AIN'T IT FUN.