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With the apparent resurgence of the 9.3x62mm in the U.S. who do you think will be the first manufacturer to chamber the 9.3x62?

Is the caliber really seeing a rebirth or is that just amongst us on these type of forums?

I would take a guess and say that Ruger will be the first if it happens at all.
 
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I don't think it's really a re-birth, just a bunch of gun-cranks on this and similar forums that like it.

Don't get me wrong, I like the round also, but for up to at least Elk size game the .338 Win. works just fine, anything like big bears or Africa why not a 375 H&H or 416 Rem or 458 Win.

The majority of people I hunt with don't reload, and don't order ammo off the internet. They buy what is in stock at the local gun shop or the big chains, and that's not 9.3x62.


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I don´t know about the US but the 9.3x62 is gaining a new following in Scandinavia, in Finland because people are a bit bored by .30 cal guns and in Sweden due to the fact that wild boar has become more common (these pigs can be pretty tough).

I tonight got my first kill with the 9.3x62 that boha built for me this summer -I was sitting for whitetail and got very bored when a common crow landed about 50 yards from me...I took a look at it through the scope and it was sitting nicely and behind it was a good ridge for bullet stopping...so aiming for the middle of the wing I took the shot.

Lets just say that a crow that is firmly hit with a 250gr Barnes X from a 9.3x62 dies instantly clap


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With the apparent resurgence of the 9.3x62mm in the U.S. who do you think will be the first manufacturer to chamber the 9.3x62?

Is the caliber really seeing a rebirth or is that just amongst us on these type of forums?

I would take a guess and say that Ruger will be the first if it happens at all.


I would look to seeing it offered in the custom shops at Winchester and others. I truly believe us AR gun cranks are not their target customers.

As much as I wish there was representatives of those companies that posted here a lot.....as is the case with MRC and other custom builders, there is not.....and this tells me of their interest in us here....."ZIPPO"


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Either the Ruger or Winchester would make a fine 9.3 x 62. All you have to do is have a good smith fit a 9.3 barrel and chamber. Not hard and not a whole lot of money. You can wait from now till doomsday, Winchester or Ruger is not going to chamber for 9.3 x 62 for the American Market. The 9.3 is popular on this board, but lets face it, we are only talking of a few hundred guys that even know what it is. So go to the store, and find a used ruger or winchester in 270 or 30-06, plenty of them around, go put a a Kreiger Barrel on it and you have what you want.
 
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Gee's Cewe, that wonderfull bit of steel and wood you own, to be bloodied on a crow! I hope you collected the feathers, the Wickans love that stuff. $ 5.00 a feather is what they pay in Mass. Any way this is from a former girlfriend that was really into that sort of stuff.
 
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The 9.3's are just internet cartridges. I never heard of it til I got online.

Of course now I want one.

Do I need one? No.


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George Semel: The devil made me do it (what would the Wickans say to that)! I love shooting crows, they are wiley and getting one in close like that means that I was sitting very still.

As for the feathers...most of the wing feathers were blown to smithereens...as was most of the bird!


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I shot a crow once with my .375 H&H and a Hornady 220 grain soft point. The explosion of feathers was unbelievable. It seemed as though the crow was dynamited and not shot.


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I would not be a bit surprised to hear of a stainless, sightless, plastic stocked 9.3 RUM or 9.3 WSM.

I'm feeling ill just typing it. Hope Big Green isn't reading this.
 
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None of them. I got a nice used Ruger M77 in 30-06 and had it made into a 9.3x62. I think that is the only way you'll see a 9.3x62 Ruger.
 
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vapodog: I guess the Barnes didn´t open up very well but the the plumage was blown out like it had just ruffled it´s feathers.

Should we have a forum for big bore varminting? clap


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vapodog: I guess the Barnes didn´t open up very well but the the plumage was blown out like it had just ruffled it´s feathers.

Should we have a forum for big bore varminting? clap

Only if we can sell videotapes of the hits.....


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Should we have a forum for big bore varminting? clap


Sure, why not. The very first shot I took with my Buffalo Classic was at a rabbit at about 25 yards. I was using a 405gr JSP at around 1800fps. Wasn't much left.

Back to 9.3x62.
I have a Enfield action that I was going to rebarrel to 9.3x62. My accountant (ie, The Imperial Red-Headed Scorpio) pointed out that a new 338 Winmag is much less expensive then converting the Enfield to 9.3x62. That 338 Winmag is now on layaway.

I have noticed that 338 Winmag ammo is abundant while 9.3x62 ammo is much harder to find, especially if you are in Outer East Podunk and you need ammo now.

It would take a commitment from the big gun companies to push 9.3 x 62 similar to how they beat us over the head with the short mags.

I'd take one in a Savage if they made one.

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I am in the process of having a 9.3x66 built on
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But in reference to crow explosions-try a 243 and a feral cat-the fur takes ages to settle.Feral cats are a great pest in Australia having caused the extinction of more native animals than the white man.


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I would buy one- especially stainless. But do I expect to see it, no. Other than CZ, you don't even see European rifles in 9.3 at retailers.
 
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With the apparent resurgence of the 9.3x62mm in the U.S. who do you think will be the first manufacturer to chamber the 9.3x62?

Is the caliber really seeing a rebirth or is that just amongst us on these type of forums?

I would take a guess and say that Ruger will be the first if it happens at all.


How about Dakota? Heres mine in 9,3x62:




OK so maybe Dakota being "Semi-Custom" doesn't count. You're probably right about Ruger, they are often ahead of the curve on such things.......DJ


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awesome 9.3 DJ !!
 
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I can't ever see any of the 9.3s being factory offerings. There are only about 20 posters here that support it regularly and as someone else said, this is hardly representative of the general gun buying public. Doesn't mean we can't wish, though. Probably the closest possibility would be a Remington Classic release in 9.3 x 62. That would certainly introduce it to a wider audience. Maybe we each need to email Big Green asking them to do so?


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I agree it's not likely to be a factory phenomenon any time soon, but I did read recently (can't find the source) that die makers are shipping more 9.3x62 reloading gear recently. I doubt they'd notice 20 or so people...

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Just a side note: Remington has announced that this year's Classic in .308 Win will be the last Classic. No more will be made.

This year will mark the 25th and final offering of the Model 700 Classic limited edition series.
http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/700classic.htm

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The 9.3's are just internet cartridges. I never heard of it til I got online.


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There is a world outside of the continental North America and there are also gunmakers other than those made inside ( or say I say made in Japan and sold as US guns) Wink

But seriously the 9.3 may be popular in europe and in some parts of Africa but that popularity is also relative in that the 9.3 is in terms of absolute number not that numerous.

As a kid a grew up with this notion of the urban legend of the 9.3 and yet even with a relative abundance of available Euro guns the 9.3 was basically an enthusiasts caliber in South Africa and Rhodesia. The real break though for local shooters came when PMP ( Denel) started loading commercially for the caliber locally. It gave us brass and cheap bullets.

I think as soon as one of the big component manufacturers like Winchester Remington or Federal produce affordable brass and ammo the claiber will / should take off.

Untill then it will just remain as you say "an internet caliber"
 
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Just a side note: Remington has announced that this year's Classic in .308 Win will be the last Classic. No more will be made.

This year will mark the 25th and final offering of the Model 700 Classic limited edition series.
http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/700classic.htm

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Sure. How many times did Cher say the same kind of thing?


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The 9.3x62 and to a lesser extent the 9.3x64 will probably never be produced by a major firearms Company in the USA...The resurgence of popularity for either of them are on the internet chat rooms...as good as they are, they are not even overly abundant in Africa anymore...

What they are is the darlings of a few hardcore gun nuts like myself and I love the 9.3x62, the 64 is a fine caliber and much over looked but in the end I would opt for the wonderful 375 over it or even the 9.3x62 I suppose....It might make a run of classic cartridges one of these days and that would be nice.

Of course you asked for opinnions and my post is only that....


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I doubt that we'll ever see it, if we do it'll be a limited run in a Ruger. I'd sure bet money it would be more profitable to screw a 9.3x62 or .338-06 barrel onto a .30-06 Model 77 action and sell it than it's been to market their new scout rifle. I shoot both of these calibers a lot, good thump with moderate recoil and consistent penetration on big game make them work for me. Still wouldn't give up my .375 though if I could only own one medium bore rifle.


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I have now talked myself into this and am now considering building a 9.3x62 on a model 70 action.
 
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DJ

Love the Dakota - what length is the barrel?
 
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MLG,
Build a 9.3x64 instead, 9.3x62s are just too common! roflmao Bob DeVries has a reamer for one of those too!
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I defense of the 9.3-62 I have shot a 375 Whelan Impr. which is similar and an old HVA in 9.3-62 and the recoil is a lot less than a heavier 375 HH. At least thats my subjective observation.

If the 9.3 is powerful enough then the rifles they are found in are a lot handier than most 375's. I would want one in CRF only. Thats not negotiable.

The path of least resistance is to shop for one already made up. Can you get CZ's there? For only $500 or so they make new ones!


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