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300 win mag trajectory question
15 June 2006, 22:09
bill23300 win mag trajectory question
Hi everyone, I have a savage in 300 win mag shootin factory remington 150 gr ammo, i have it sighted in for 3in high at 100yds. My dilemma is i dont have any range close to my home to shoot long distance and im into long range (500+)yds varmint hunting and i was wondering if anyone could give me a rough estimate of where it might be hitting at 500 yds any input would be appreciated thanks alot
15 June 2006, 22:16
vapodogroughly about 30 inches low.
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15 June 2006, 22:54
scr83jpColorado Sako 300wm 180gr Sierra Game Kings,72gr of IMR 4831,Rem9 1/2 mag primer, 600+ yds, Leupold 3x9x40 CPC reticle on 9 power held 2 ft over the front shoulder of a huge mule deer doe and broke her right front foreleg next one went into her chest & dropped her.
Hey bill
Not trying to cause trouble here, but that is about the poorest choice for a 300 win mag bullet I can imagine, no sectional density, low ballistic coefficient, more wind drift, probably not appropriate to the barrel twist rate of your gun, all of which translates into poor performance.
But if you insist on the 150 gr bullet then Vapo is right, about 30" with about that much wind drift in a 10 mph wind.
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17 June 2006, 03:23
friarmeierPlay around with the Norma balistic program a bit. It's free and can be viewed on-line w/o downloading!
http://www.norma.cc/sida/eng/index.htmlYou'll need to "roll-over" the "ballistics" tab, and then, just under that bar, roll-over the "english" units (ie; not metric!).
It should be fun and will give you a good idea what to expect.
friar
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17 June 2006, 03:26
friarmeierquote:
Originally posted by scr83jp:
Colorado Sako 300wm 180gr Sierra Game Kings,72gr of IMR 4831,Rem9 1/2 mag primer, 600+ yds, Leupold 3x9x40 CPC reticle on 9 power held 2 ft over the front shoulder of a huge mule deer doe and broke her right front foreleg next one went into her chest & dropped her.
Uhhhh, and this matters...why?
friar
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17 June 2006, 04:53
bill23hey woods which should i use then 165 or 180 grn this is ,my first magnum and im still a little wet under the ears
IMO and experience with the .300 Winnie the 180 grain bullets are the only way to go. Find a good bullet, a load your rifle likes and practice with them and use them on any game you want to shoot in the US and elsewhere. One bullet one load. They work!
BJB
17 June 2006, 05:37
driverHello bill23,
Below are some "come ups" that will give you a guideline to use for elevation. From your 100 yd zero, suggest the following for elevation and mind you these are accumulative:
1-200, 2 minutes, 2-300, 3 minutes, 3-400, 3 minutes, and from 4 -500, 3 minutes. This gives you a total "come ups" of 11 minutes or if your sight/scope, etc. is 1/4 moa per click, you are looking at 44 clicks up to put you on at 500 yards. W/ the 150 bullet, you are shooting a fairly "flat tragjectory" bullet and might be a bit on the high side. Should put you pretty much on if you are using the heavier bullets. Rule of thumb, from 100 to 700 yards, 3 minutes of angle elevation per 100 yards. Again, rule of thumb, but pretty well proven over the years to work well. After 700 yards, whole new world "out there..." Hope it works for you.
Hey bill
I agree with BJB, the 180 gr bullet is a minimum for factory loaded ammo. If you were reloading then the 168 Barnes Triple Shock would be a good load. With factory ammo the 180 gr in a good bullet such as Nosler Partition, Nosler Accubond, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Scirocco or Barnes Triple Shocks loaded in Federal Premium line would all be good. If budget is a problem then get the Remington Core Lokt, but make it the 180. The performance in the field will be much better.
However, I just noticed that you were going to be shooting varmints with it. The 300 win mag is too much gun for that but better than not hunting varmints at all. I would still recommend shooting the 180 gr bullet just for the practice. Come in handy during the deer season.
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Hi Bill
Try this link out.
http://www.eskimo.com/~jbm/ballistics/traj/traj.htmlWith Remington core-lokt it says 31.6"
Regards
Mark
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quote:
Originally posted by BJB:
IMO and experience with the .300 Winnie the 180 grain bullets are the only way to go. Find a good bullet, a load your rifle likes and practice with them and use them on any game you want to shoot in the US and elsewhere. One bullet one load. They work!
BJB
I would have to agree.
17 June 2006, 17:37
iwzbeemanI agree with BJB but would select a 200gr bullet. If you're wanting to shoot `150gr bullets, a 30-06 or a .308 would give you all the real world speed you would need.
After 3 years of trying different bullets and loads I have found the right food for my 300WM Sako 75.
76, 3 g Vihtavuori N165
Lapua shells
180g Oryx.
Works every time.
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19 June 2006, 07:40
JacobiteMy .300 Winnie likes 180 grain Nosler BT's best followed by 165 Nosler BT's. However I am getting 1-1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with 125 grain BT's
Just started playing with them for ground hog shooting under 300 yards. Not much of a varmint hunter but figured the practice with my deer rifle would be good.
Don Nelson
Sw. PA.