I've owned a few in the past and I own one now. I think, for the money, it's a nice rifle. Just a little bit classier.
On the other hand some of the standard grades come with some real nice wood....some almost "super grade" wood. You just need to pick through the pile....
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Posts: 489 | Location: Texas, USA | Registered: 25 December 2004
I have a new one in a .270 win. I'm having difficulty getting a decent group out of it. I have started out with 150gr nosler BT and RL22 powder. The best group I've managed is about 1.4" at 100yds. There was fairly heavy contact between the bbl and the stock at the forearm. primers are showing some cratering at near published max loads- my gunsmith says its from a weak firing pin spring- not pressure. I'm hoping with a new Wolff spring and a cleaned out bbl channel I can get it down closer to 1 moa.
This weekends project is to try out the new spring- and maybe a couple of different powders. The rifle is not nearly as nicely finished as my fathers (1949 m70 SG .270)- but- it is definetly a much nicer rifle than most factory rifles. I think it will be my favorite if i can dial it in.
How much rifle, both weight and power, you're willing to carry is pretty subjective. I didn't care to lug an M70 Classic LT around the Virginia hills, though, and it weighed 8 pounds 1 ounce, bare and empty. With the scope, carrying strap, rounds in the magazine, I was at 9.25+/- (not weighed). When my arms finally got too long I sold it. It weighed about the same as a Supergrade in the rack right next to it.
Jaywalker
Posts: 1006 | Location: Texas | Registered: 30 December 2003
I have had several, now have a 300 WM. Shoots well, looks nice, fit and finish are great. They tend to hold their value well and after you have it a while you don't mind the extra cost when you see how nice they look compared to the standard grades. Get one, you'll like it.
They're not available in the caliber I want....the stocks are semifancy....pretty one side only, have too long barrels..... Hell with it....I still like the featherweights. I do custom build a few to get the pretty wood and looks just to my suiting.
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Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003
They are HEAVY!! Other than that a great rifle. I've got one in 30-06 that I'm taking to Namibia in 2 months. I've had no problem getting the gun to shoot 3 shot MOA groups with Barnes TSX's and Nosler Partitions. I will be shooting the Barnes in Africa. I had the stock pillar bedded and a trigger job done.
I will probably get a Bansner stock down the road to use for most of my hunting with the gun, should lighten it up by over a pound. I just felt like I needed a wood stocked gun for Africa.
Posts: 317 | Location: Alabama | Registered: 06 March 2004
I love mine as well,the extra weight does seem to help with off hand shooting.But what's going on with the plastic fore end tip,cheap crap on an otherwise classy rifle.
Posts: 191 | Location: Wollongong NSW Australia | Registered: 25 August 2004
I have owned a bunch of them over the years and never a bad one. Right now I only have two, a 30-06 and a .338 Win. Mag. both 2nd generation rifles and they are keepers. I really think the Classic Super Grade is the best buy out there. Really classy rifle at a reasonable price. As long as Winchester keeps making them the pre 64s can go to the collectors as far as I am concerned. I've owned both and frankly believe the new Classic Model 70 is a better rifle and usually a better shooter.
Posts: 400 | Location: Murfreesboro,TN,USA | Registered: 16 January 2002
I have talked to Winchester's customer service.. and the only real difference is the fancier stock...other than that, they are suppose to be the same rifle as the regular model 70s.....
You can purchase those stocks and turn your model 70 into a super grade looking one... the stocks are available thru Brownell's.....
Posts: 16144 | Location: Southern Oregon USA | Registered: 04 January 2005