This is my favorite PA hunting rifle. It is a 1956 Standard, cut down to 19 inches due to serious external, cosmetic damage out toward the end of the barrel. The rest of the barrel inside and out is like new! And it shoots!

Lyman 48 WJS, Williams 3/8" ramp and FireSight insert (.312 if my memory is correct) and a Leupold VX1 Gloss in 2-7x in Leupold Medium QR rings.

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!

19" 30-06?
AKA the .308



On a serious note, ever chrono any loads to see what you actually get velocity wise from that 19" barrel?

Nice and manageable rifle.

Ovny.

My standard go to load for 30-06 is Win Case, CCI-200 Primer, 55 grains of IMR 4350 and 180 Grain Nosler Partitions.

22 inch barrel 2725 fps

19 inch barrel 2500 fps

The first rifle I built was on a Browning Safari 30-06 that had a 19" barrel. I stocked it with a Fajen pre-turned stock and shot it like that. Honest half inch groups. I shot a lot of animals with it including moose and dall sheep and eight elk. I still have it.

One day I went out and bought a chronograph. Boy was I surprised. Said to my self, "self, how in the hell can you kill anything with that slow a round?" I changed the barrel to a 22" one. What a mistake, should not have done that and should not have bought that chrono. Still have the rifle though.

Jim

Yup. Just gave my granddaughter my old 760 Rem '06 that during the elk season and a huge snowstorm in CO back in the 80's, I took a hacksaw and cut the barrel back to about 19.5 inches and filed it flat, broke the crown with 400 wet and dry over a bullet, went out the next morning and killed my first Bull elk. Killed quite a few elk after that too and mule deer. Let my father in law use it for years here in KS until he passed away and it works on whitetail too. Now my 10 year old Granddaughter is packing it. Will take her first deer with it next year I would guess.

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Originally posted by airgun1:
My standard go to load for 30-06 is Win Case, CCI-200 Primer, 55 grains of IMR 4350 and 180 Grain Nosler Partitions.

22 inch barrel 2725 fps

19 inch barrel 2500 fps

So it kinda is a long action 308.
I'll bet it is fun to carry and manageable in a blind.

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One day I went out and bought a chronograph. Boy was I surprised. Said to my self, "self, how in the hell can you kill anything with that slow a round?" I changed the barrel to a 22" one. What a mistake, should not have done that and should not have bought that chrono. Still have the rifle though.

The best way to ruin a kill every thing shoots like a house on fire rifle is to chrono it.

The best stalker hunter I ever knew ( fast and accurate ) carried a 30-06 Mod. 760 with an 18" barrel. roger

A guy I know wanted to have a Stutzen rifle made, and had it done with a 20" 300 Wby barrel. I told him he had the world's LOUDEST 308 ever made :-)

I can't imagine a hunter not having at least two carbines around the house..or a couple of 26 inch barreled guns for that matter..I like both and never understood the argument of carbines vs. rifles, they both serve a purpose.

Great set up. I love a carbine with irons and optics.

I used to be crazy about ballistics and the chronograph. One of my great mentors opinion on the chrony and ballitics was: "it's good to know but the animals don't know or care about it."

Myself and a couple of friends have found numerous guns and cartridges that the most accurate loads fall in between 2500-2660 FPS.

I chrono loads that I am going to be using so that I know the down range velocity for calculating drop ala Kentucky Windage and Tennessee Elevation.

I am a dinosaur. I have no range finder and none of my scopes are mini versions of the hubble space telescope with huge, unprotected finger knobs. My guns and optics are simple and rugged.

7th gp, cool name I am a retired 11B4P myself

Your shooting a handy .308 in reality and not a thing wrong with that..if one tells me he can tell the difference in killing power between a .308 and a 30-06 on game at reasonable ranges say up to 400 yards, I consider him ignorant or nuts. Only on paper does that argument hold water, but like paper it only works a short time.

I have killed my last 2 elk with a 30-06 with 180 gr Sierra Gamekings and 60 gr of H4831SC out of a 22 inch barrel. When I chronographed the load I got 2625 fps, which was about 125-150 fps slower than I was expecting, but when I bumped the powder charge up my groups went to crap so I stuck with that load. Neither elk seemed to notice the difference of being shot at 250 and 350 yards with that load or being shot with the 200 gr Gameking at 2885 fps out of a 300 WM that I shot my first elk with.

I remember the most unpleasant range experience I ever had was shooting on the bench next to a 20" barrel 30-06

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Originally posted by Fury01:
Yup. Just gave my granddaughter my old 760 Rem '06.... Now my 10 year old Granddaughter is packing it. Will take her first deer with it next year I would guess.

Probably the worst kicking rifle I have ever shot was a friend's Remington 760 in .30-'06 I was sighting in for him off the bench. The stock just beat me to death. I hope you have done something to correct that before turning it loose on your 10 year old.

BTW My shooting experience includes a .577, .505 Gibbs, .500 Jeffery. .416 Rigby, .450 Watts and various .375's. None ever beat me up like that 760.

There are some famous trackers in this part of the country who made their reputation shooting Remingtons with 18 inch barrels in pump configuration. However, they used peep sights since they hunted close cover and did not require scopes.

I had a nice 18.5" 30-06 Mod. 95 Win. and old gun well used, but I loved it and it killed everything I shot with it..Traded it for a bicycle and two pocket knives..Its been down hill ever since!

I cut off a Savage 99F in 308 to 16.5 inches for a saddle gun, and loved it, it got me 300 Savage and/or 30-40 Krag ballistics. I shot several elk and a few deer with it over a 5 year period, it killed very well indeed wit those Remington RN Core-Lokts of the day..That RN Core-Lokt is still as a good a bullet as any super premium. The same does not apply to the spritzer Core-Lokts, they are a "good enough" bullet but don't begin to compete with that round nose joby..

Read something sometime back by a fellow who stated he was not quite satisfied with the 180 gr. Rem SP spitzer core lokts of today as they were not as good as the old Corelokts he used to use...Hey all us old curmudgeons could have told him that, its always been that way, The RN was the one that worked then and now, the Spitzer never was that good, nothing new there. but in all fairness the spritzer corelokt of yesteryear, it was still one of the better bullets of the time.

I still have a few hundred rounds of 180 gr RN .308 Core-Lokts loaded up in my 308, 30-06 and even my 30-30. Also have a couple of hundred bullets to keep me going.