Do Remington 700 rifles still have an integral safety or did they finally do away with it?
Thanks,
Sam

Sounds like a troll question to me.

What does that mean?

Describe, in full, "Integral safety".

Sam, do you mean the built in lockable safety they had a few years back? I don't think they do now & if you come across one with it, it is possible, from what I've read, to change the affected components out. Brownells did at one point have them I believe, & may still do so.
Steve

Shinzo,
Yes, I mean that stupid built in lock safety. After I saw one I switched brands but then I heard they (Big Green) no longer made guns with that New York City built in locking device so I thought I would give them another try. I haven't actually seen it yet since I bought it at GunBroker so I am just a bit nervous that it will show up with that politically correct lock.
Sam

Sam, if it does turn up like that then this might offer some help. J lock
Steve.

I saw a thread on another forum where the safety problems on remmy 700's were discussed. i belivee that it revolved around the safety mecahnanism locking the bolt. there had been som nasty accidents as a result of negligent accidental discharges of the rifles and about 20 years ago a modification was carried out to remmy rifles to rectify this.

Uk

I have one on a Sendero and just leave it unlocked, but I've been leary ever since last year when I took a friend hunting and his rifle snapped 3 times on a small whitetail buck. i was dulled out for him because he doesn't get to hunt often and would have enjoyed the meat. Seems that when he was cleaning the rifle he didn't get it fully turned to the fire position even though it appeared to be unlocked.

I think I may put a Calahan on that rifle to ease the worry.

Like other's have said, all of my newer Remingtons in the last couple of years have not had this feature. They still come with HEAVY triggers though. Nothing alittle screw driver, nail polish, and safety test will fix on the 700s or a reduced sear spring in their pumps and autos.....

Good Luck

Reloader

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I saw a thread on another forum where the safety problems on remmy 700's were discussed. i belivee that it revolved around the safety mecahnanism locking the bolt. there had been som nasty accidents as a result of negligent accidental discharges of the rifles and about 20 years ago a modification was carried out to remmy rifles to rectify this.

A very easy fix on the Pre '82s. I've modded them buy cutting the bolt lock off, honing, and painting the cut edge. I don't like bolt locks period.

Have a good one,

Reloader

It is dirt simple to change the bolt-shroud firing pin mechanism. Brownell's sells a replacement piece. I replaced that stupid J-Lock on my 2004 M-700 Classic.

If you were to buy one, just buy the part and make the swap. The firing pin and spring assembly are way better quality on the Brownells part by the way.

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Originally posted by Reloader:

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I saw a thread on another forum where the safety problems on remmy 700's were discussed. i belivee that it revolved around the safety mecahnanism locking the bolt. there had been som nasty accidents as a result of negligent accidental discharges of the rifles and about 20 years ago a modification was carried out to remmy rifles to rectify this.

A very easy fix on the Pre '82s. I've modded them buy cutting the bolt lock off, honing, and painting the cut edge. I don't like bolt locks period.

Have a good one,

Reloader

A guy from Oregon told about his hunting buddies laughing their asses off at him. He had a 700 Remington in 35 Whelen that he went hunting with. When he got back to camp he had no bolt.
I asked him if he had the version with no lock down and he said yes. Sometimes the 700 bolt stop will stick in the down position. If you carry the rifle with a sling and the safety on the bolt is free to rotate open on a tree limb or bush. When it does so your bolt is on the ground. If you don't hear it you are out the cost of sending your rifle back to Remington for a new bolt. Plus your buddies get to laugh their asses off at you.

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A guy from Oregon told about his hunting buddies laughing their asses off at him. He had a 700 Remington in 35 Whelen that he went hunting with. When he got back to camp he had no bolt.
I asked him if he had the version with no lock down and he said yes. Sometimes the 700 bolt stop will stick in the down position. If you carry the rifle with a sling and the safety on the bolt is free to rotate open on a tree limb or bush.

You got that right. One of a coupe reasons I am done with newer Remington 700s. Lack of bolt rotating lock, WHAT A absolutely SHEET DESIGN!! When I look at a new rifle these days it is the 1st thing I check for.

For those of us that hunt in dense woods and brush of the Pacific Northwest. Having the bolt handle catch on a tree limb or bush and dump the round out of the chamber is real. Had it happen to me many times over the years with Remington 700s. Also know of others this has happened to. So far I have not lost the bolt but I could see it happen if the bolt release gets sticky.

Brownell's sells the 3 position safety for the 700. They state that it must be fitted by a gunsmith. Does anyone know why this work must be done by a gunsmith? What's so difficult?
Regards, Keith

I'm really hoping that mine arrives without that stupid PC lock.

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Brownell's sells the 3 position safety for the 700. They state that it must be fitted by a gunsmith. Does anyone know why this work must be done by a gunsmith? What's so difficult?

There'a a lot of spring tension involved but you can rig up a vise to overcome that. The main reason is liability...it's because their lawyer said so.

I too got tired of my 700 .35 Whelen bolt coming open too. All of my older 700 Classics had bolt locks. I like em. I've never had a misfire. Anyway the main safety factor is between your ears, not your hands. I noticed that the slot was still in the bolt and the gap was in the side of the receiver so I bought an old safety with the bolt lock ear still on it. Problem solved.
Rich Elliott

Rich,
That is a very good idea about installing an old type safety. I have just been checking and it seems that it is difficult to buy these parts however. Brownell's sells what they call Rifle Basix safety. The problem is that I need it for a left hand action and the catalog does not say that it will fit a LH action. Does anyone know where to buy a LH safety?
Thanks and Regards, Keith

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A guy from Oregon told about his hunting buddies laughing their asses off at him. He had a 700 Remington in 35 Whelen that he went hunting with. When he got back to camp he had no bolt.
I asked him if he had the version with no lock down and he said yes. Sometimes the 700 bolt stop will stick in the down position. If you carry the rifle with a sling and the safety on the bolt is free to rotate open on a tree limb or bush. When it does so your bolt is on the ground. If you don't hear it you are out the cost of sending your rifle back to Remington for a new bolt. Plus your buddies get to laugh their asses off at you.

That was his own fault IMO.

A properly maintained 700 should not have a sticky bolt release. If you have one that does, it's your own responsibility to fix the problem. Any rifle can have problems with improper maintenance. Any time I place a bolt in a 700, I always look at the bolt stop to ensure it is in place. Never had one engage on it's own

I also hunt in some nasty thickets and I've never had a bolt fall open. Even when I hunt with 3 pos safeties, I leave them in the middle position.

To each his own, I personally don't care for 3 pos or bolt locks.

Ya'll have a good one,

Reloader

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Originally posted by ireload2:

A guy from Oregon told about his hunting buddies laughing their asses off at him. He had a 700 Remington in 35 Whelen that he went hunting with. When he got back to camp he had no bolt.
I asked him if he had the version with no lock down and he said yes. Sometimes the 700 bolt stop will stick in the down position. If you carry the rifle with a sling and the safety on the bolt is free to rotate open on a tree limb or bush. When it does so your bolt is on the ground. If you don't hear it you are out the cost of sending your rifle back to Remington for a new bolt. Plus your buddies get to laugh their asses off at you.

I have used a M700 in very hard areas. The rifle shows the scars of what some here would call abuse. I have NEVER, NEVER had the bolt come open on it's own.

I haven't seen an issue with the bolt stop on my M700s, but that doesn't mean anything.

My only issue with the M700 design is the trigger. I have had one triger that failed. If I had had a loaded round in the chamber, it would have gone boom.

I am a walker and carry my rifle on a sling. If the rifle is cocked and on my left shoulder it is constantly opening due to brush and limbs If on my right side the bolt gets hung up in my belt or suspenders and opens. Maybe it's the way that I carry it. Not straight up and down but sort of across my back. The Gunny wouldn't approve of my un-military position I think. By the way my rifle has a LH action.
Regards, Keith
Semper Fi

Thanks for all the advice guys. I should receive it by Saturday. I'll let you know if it has that NY City locking device.
Sam

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Originally posted by Demonical:
It is dirt simple to change the bolt-shroud firing pin mechanism. Brownell's sells a replacement piece. I replaced that stupid J-Lock on my 2004 M-700 Classic.

If you were to buy one, just buy the part and make the swap. The firing pin and spring assembly are way better quality on the Brownells part by the way.

Here's pics of the stock Remington firing pin assembly and the replacement from Brownells. Notice the Brownells pin is much more robust and the spring coils are nice and snug, not all bound up like the stupid Remmy factory firing pin.
The Brownells is the top and the Remington is the bottom one, just to make sure you know which is which.

I got it on Saturday and no stupid J-Lock BTW, workmanship on this rifle from Ilion, NY is first rate, I'm a happy camper!