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9,3 250 TSX grainers on feral cattle
22 September 2007, 20:31
Lorenzo9,3 250 TSX grainers on feral cattle
Yesterday I shot two ferals with my 9,3x62.
I have been using the TSX 250 grainers from pigs up to waterbuffs with good results.
Yesterday from five shots I shot four pass through the bovines as if they were made of butter!!!
Only one bullet recoverd. I cant complain about these bullets but now I am a little concerned about continue using them on light game (pigs&deers).
Some pics
At night I went for pigs and nothing (as usual)
The "funny" thing is that while walking at night I found a poacher (southamerican version) and he hide into some bushes. I was carrying a night vision device so I turn on the spotlight directly on his face and the chap walk out of the bushes with his hands up thinking I was a policeman...
After some talk we find that we have some friends in common so we share some drinks of grappa and we walk away from each other wishing us good hunting

He knows exactly where I have my trail cameras and feeders

and never touch nothing or kill nothing there and also as he knows "everyone" (read poachers) in the area I prefer not to tell anyone about him. I prefer to loose some pigs or deers than my trail cams

BTW, he seems a good chap

L
22 September 2007, 21:09
WhitworthNice job, Lorenzo! How were the steaks?!

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24 September 2007, 03:42
GrosVentreGeorgeIs a feral cow much of a hunt? How do they go feral in the first place?
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24 September 2007, 04:32
greghudquote:
After some talk we find that we have some friends in common so we share some drinks of grappa and we walk away from each other wishing us good hunting
anyone else thinking the term "poacher" has a different meaning in south america?
top stuff lorenzo, hope you have a big enough freezer.
jimmy, if you deal with domesticated cattle you can seee they can be quite dangerous, add the fact that a ferral probably hasent ever seen a human and they can be very dangerous.
greg
24 September 2007, 04:36
LorenzoNo they where not a difficult hunt but they don't allow anyone walking or on horseback to get near.
When my brother in law bought that farm they were already there because no one was able to catch them. They just jump cattle fences as soon as they receive some little preasure from someone.
They where some kind of brahaman cattle.
L
24 September 2007, 04:49
Lorenzoquote:
Originally posted by greghud:
quote:
After some talk we find that we have some friends in common so we share some drinks of grappa and we walk away from each other wishing us good hunting
anyone else thinking the term "poacher" has a different meaning in south america?
top stuff lorenzo, hope you have a big enough freezer.
My country is very small and everyones knows each other in the hunting fraternity. This chap was a friend of someone I know who sells sausages made of deer and pigs.
Here you have to separate the normal hunters from little country towns that only kill something for the freezer now and then, from the real poachers that kill everything despite their size and in big numbers and who also can destroy someone's else property. Also these people can kill a sheep or a calf so here we are talking of real outlaws that can be very dengerous if confronted.
Sometimes with the normal chaps from the small towns that just enjoy hunting and that don't give serious trouble is better a live and let live policy...
Remember that here we don't have public lands or seasons, so someone who cannot afford a piece of land is unable to hunt. Because of these farmers don't complain much about them meanwhile things are done with some order and in a little scale.
L
24 September 2007, 06:28
AglifterWhile it's your culture, and land, etc -- from the experience my family's had in the PA, it is MUCH better to require those villagers to ask for permission, than to get them in the habit of poaching, but in moderation. Landowners doing that around PA set a very bad precedent of "hunters" thinking they had a RIGHT to do such things... So, they end up shooting your horses and cattle because they think they're deer...
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24 September 2007, 06:29
Aglifterquote:
Originally posted by Aglifter:
While it's your culture, and land, etc -- from the experience my family's had in the PA, it is MUCH better to require those villagers to ask for permission, than to get them in the habit of poaching, but in moderation. Landowners doing that around PA set a very bad precedent of "hunters" thinking they had a RIGHT to do such things... So, the idiots you'd never allow on your land end up shooting your horses and cattle because they think they're deer...
And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
29 September 2007, 04:34
scruffy'While it's your culture ...' .... Yup, not a time to make a judgement ... that is why so many people travel, I reckon .. to experience other cultures ... To arrive and state that the people are doing it all wrong - well, certainly not my place.

02 October 2007, 03:05
Safarischorschquote:
Originally posted by Lorenzo:
No they where not a difficult hunt but they don't allow anyone walking or on horseback to get near.
When my brother in law bought that farm they were already there because no one was able to catch them. They just jump cattle fences as soon as they receive some little preasure from someone.
They where some kind of brahaman cattle.
L
Cause of your pictures be so kind and tell me what was the distance when shooting the bull and where did the bullet enter/exit the bull?
Must be very clos caus of loosing the pedals?!
04 October 2007, 07:09
LorenzoThe first bull I shot it at aprox. 50 metres and the other one at aprox. 90 metres.
All shots where behind the shoulder and all where angled shots.
I also was surprised of the loose of petals because I never use hot loads, just the oposite..

L
04 October 2007, 14:53
jeffeossozebu or cebu cattle, as my friend juan pozzi as informed me. kind of looks like brahma cattle, and is indian, but are larger and meaner
jeffe
04 October 2007, 16:50
LorenzoWell we are on my terrain now...

Cebú is a general name given to any of the Bos Indicus races. As with the Bos Taurus (hereford, angus, charolais, etc) there are several cebú races like the Brahman (meat cebú), Gir (milk cebú), etc etc.
When you cross breed them with the Taurus races you have the Braford (brahman/heregord), Brangus (brahman/angus), Girolando (Gir/holando). Holando is the way we call down here the holstein cattle.
So all of them are cebues or cebuines races.
Capishe ? And all of them are from India and its neigbourhoods..

L