Dear all

I want to get my Swaro 1.25-4 x 24 as low as possible on my M700 7mm Rem Mag using Leupold DDT rings and bases.

Can I get away with the low rings and still clear the ocular bell with the bolt handle?

Any info greatly appreciated.

Whats the measurement on the bell? Also, it is possible to go too low with the mounts. If you get the scope to low for the stock, you will have to pitch your head forward and down to look through the scope which can hurt accuracy and make it hard to handle recoil.

John

I'm not sure John

I would need to measure it. I think as low as poss will be ok but an intesting point you make nonetheless. I can see that yes you could have it too low.

I think the only think to do is trial and error really. Try the lows and then the mediums - this is my plan anyhow.

Thanks

Jon

If you are 6' like me, I would try the meds first. If you are smaller in stature, or have a really short neck, go lows. Look at a target down rang, then bring the rifle to your shoulder while still looking on the target. The scope should come into view without adjusting your head.

John

At one time really low scopes were not only the rage, they were a necessity.

Those were the days of the older style rifle butt-stocks, which had a great deal of drop built into them, to instantly align the sighting eye with the open iron sights most rifles wore.

Over the years, rifle stocks' butts have been straightened a great deal, as scopes have become much more common in field use than iron sights.

Nowadays, most American sporter stocks are designed to put the shooting eye up at the level of a scope, which is generally considered to be about 1-1/2" above the CENTER of the bore.

Some American butt-stocks are even higher, and make it almost impossible to use iron sights without turning one's head sideways and laying it flat on the butt-stock.

My thought is that it is alright to try low rings. But don't be surprised if you have to go up to medium or even high rings, depending on the structure of your face.

What I do is to mount a scope on the rifle. Then I close my ey4es and raise the gun very quickly to my shoulder with my head in a comfortable position on the butt-stock. Then I open my eyes. If my Master eye ("shooting eye") is looking through the dead center of the scope, I am ready to go. If not, I will try different heights of rings until I find some combo which put my eye looking as close as possible at the dead center of the ocular lense.

I don't bother measuring. Cut and try for head and eye position relative to the scope works fine for me.

A consideration many overlook is ease of use of the action while wearing gloves. I may be ham handed but low mounted scopes make it difficult for me to quickly cycle the action. For me a proper length of pull on the rifle coupled with medium height rings works best.

I have a 3-10 Swaro on a short action M700 in medium rings. I would not want it any lower due to clearance with the ocular (spelling?) lens and the bolt handle. I would think the two scopes would be similar size at the rear.

Thanks Nimrod

I reckon then it might be the mediums.

Yes I would say the ocular bell would be identical size. It looks like it does to me.

Cheers