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If you had to choose one bullet for all your big game hunting, what would it be? capt david "It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds. Get closer! | ||
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As the 30-06sp is mentioned in the quote on you post I would vote for the Nosler partition 180gr in that caliber. Old school for sure but they both still work well. In fact the 06 has been used to take a good number of elephants with solids so it is a very handy rifle for lots of jobs. For North America the partition does it for me. | |||
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+1 for the Partition. Still the gold standard (well, the lead standard...) If I were restricted to a lead-free bullet, would have to pick the Barnes Tipped X. NRA Life Member | |||
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I'd second the 180 gr. NP. Though a 180 gr. bullet can kill an elephant under ideal conditions, it isn't by any stretch an elephant bullet! ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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The 30-06 is in my signature. I'm intrested in what bullet you would choose if restricted to only one. For me, it would be the Partition, but I'm glad they make the BTs. capt davud "It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds. Get closer! | |||
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Barnes "X" Flat Base, but those are getting harder to find, although I like the results I get with Barnes Originals out of my .38-55. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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180gr Partition | |||
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Depends on the caliber. Nosler doesn't make a Partition in .411. I like the Woodleigh 400 RN in my 400 Whelen. Everything else uses Partitions. Mart "...I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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The Nosler Accubond usually duplicates the accuracy and flat trajectory of the Ballistic Tip while its terminal performance is very close to the Partition. I think I could manage to get by with it for all of my hunting. | |||
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Partition Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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I would lean towards the Partition though none of my rifles give stellar groups with them or maybe I have not found the sweetspot in my loads yet. Plenty fine for hunting though. On the flip side, they all shoot Accubonds very well, I just have not shot enough animals with them yet to say they are better than Partitions. 30+ years experience tells me that perfection hit at .264. Others are adequate but anything before or after is wishful thinking. | |||
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Easy for me to answer this question. Number one bullet for me and all my rifles would be the Northfork. Following in order of preference would be Nosler Partition or Accubond, Barnes TSX, Swift A-Frame, Sierra Gameking. I shoot many champerings and hunt extensively along with my son and grandsons and buddies, we use that is most accurate in the rifle we have in hand and could be comfortable with any of the above loaded for game. The choice among modern bullets is exceptional. Good shooting. phurley | |||
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partitions Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Accubond  "though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression." ---Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Partitions. Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Will, my referance to the 30-06 and killing elephants in no way implies that I think it is an elephant gun, however it was an article written by Ganyana that mentioned it loaded with Woodleigh 220gr solids and used for culling. I suppose that would work for brain shots but this tread was about North America. | |||
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First and foremost Ganyana is a hustler! I only believe a portion of what he says.  The guy can talk several miles a minute. Have to give him credit for that. Hard to get a word in edgewise.Culling baby elephant (another unfortunate experiment) with brain shots using a 30-06 would do nicely.  ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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A 220 solid from a .30-06 will penetrate similarly in depth and straightness to a 300 grain solid from a .375, a 400 solid from a .416, or a 500 solid from a .458 or a .470. Once it makes it to it, an elephant's brain won't know the difference in any of them. | |||
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I would be happy with 1 Partitions 2 Accubonds 3 A frames 4 Any version of the Barnes x bullet Go Navy | |||
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You say bullet not weight or caliber. So with that to go on I would say that for the hunting I do I could get by with Nosler Ballistic Tips. Right now they are my go to bullet for deer. For black bear I figure I could get by with 180's in my 30-06 or .300 mag or even 150's in my .270 WSM. I really hate these limited choice questions. Molon Labe New account for Jacobite | |||
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I started gunsmith school and reloading the same year, 1952. Used Nosler partitions then and still do. Almost all my African game has been shot with NP handloads except once I tried Speer Grandslams in my 375H&H and once I tried A Frames in my 06. The Grandslams worked perfectly the A frames did not. Only other bullet I have used for hunting has been large bore solids that were not available from Nosler in 416 and 470 and I used Woodleigh's in both calibers. It's hard for me to experiment with success. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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Nosler Partitions Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty. | |||
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Ironically, the Nosler Partitions of the 1950's, although using the same principle as today's Partitions, were entirely different bullets. The old Partitions were made on screw machines through an entirely different method than the double-end draw of the current Partition jackets. The way the old Partitions were made allowed more chance for imbalance in the jacket/core, which is why some people considered them less potentially accurate than some other bullets. The small rebate in the middle of the bullet over the partition made loading them in some combinations of cartridges/rifles a problem since the rebate might end up at the lip of the mouth of the case. I never had a problem with this, but Nosler made a special bullet for the .300 Winchester to address this particular caliber's idiosyncracies. I'm old enough to have used a lot of both the "old" and the "new" Partitions. I always had pretty decent accuracy from the old ones, and have found the "new" ones to be equal or better in accuracy to most conventional hunting bullets, and superior to other "premium" hunting bullets. As I said earlier, the Accubond provides Partition performance with higher B.C. and (in some guns) better accuracy, so it might be the top choice now. However, it is long, so some rifles benefit from the slightly shorter Partition. Truth be told, the old Nosler lead-tipped Solid Base was a fantastic bullet. I still believe that Nosler dropped it because its performance was so close to the Partition that, at half the price of the Partition, it threatened the sales of Nosler's flagship Partition. In the recent past Nosler has made some runs of the Solid Base for sale to ammunition manufacturers. When these come up as "seconds" or factory "overruns", I grab all I can afford. | |||
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I have never used the "old partitions" but I have used a lot of the more recent ones. Never had one fail me. My Model 70 Classic 06 will print 3 into less than an inch at a 100yds. Thats all I need in a light hunting rifle. | |||
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Since this is a redundant thread from "American Big Game Hunting", I'll repeat myself here. My first choice of a hunting bullet is a Northfork, secondly it's a Partition. Same as Phurley5. Bear in Fairbanks Unless you're the lead dog, the scenery never changes. I never thought that I'd live to see a President worse than Jimmy Carter. Well, I have. Gun control means using two hands. | |||
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I've got a full box of the old machine turned Nosler Partitions, 130 gr. .277's in case one cannot live without some! They may have been owned at one time by Jack O'Connor. (Just kidding). ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Ive not met a beast yet whos armor could stop a properly selected and proportioned boring, weak, prone to failure (  ) cup and core slug. And I dont think I ever will. Now if Cape buff or Ele or perhaps a Lion were in the mix, then I might feel the need to up the ante to a solid or ?? But there is NOTHING in North America that a well selected cup and core cant handle with superb results. The key being well selected AND well placed. Dawning flack jacket, let er rip..  AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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I was shooting the Hornady Spire Points out of my 308W and decided to try the Partitions just because they got such a good name. I shoot mostly sika and they have a reputation for being tough and always running. Since I've started using the Partitions I'd say about 50% of my chest shot sika, maybe more, go straight down. I'd never seen that even once with the Spire Points no matter what the damage. The Partitions will not shoot as good groups as the Spire Points and I'm not getting the same velocity out of them but at the minute they are my standard hunting bullet. | |||
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Partitions in my 9.3 X 62 and .300s. In .458", Barnes and Hornady In .358" Speer, Hornady and Nosler Bob www.bigbores.ca "Let every created thing give praise to the LORD, for he issued his command, and they came into being" - King David, Psalm 148 (NLT) | |||
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The first load I work up for any rifle I own is a load with a nos/par. If restricted to one bullet it would be 180gr partition for my 30-06. Steve | |||
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Barnes TSX "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Nosler Partition blems/over runs from Shooter's Pro Shop. | |||
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Hi all TTSX or TSX have never failed me Blacktail to Cape Buffalo and lots in between.6mm/6.5mm/7mm/338/9.3mm/458 Bill DRSS | |||
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