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Heres the deal, new elk area that is really brushy with limited visibility- answer- 16 to 20 fooot ladder stand. I have a older Rem 760 which has been rebored to 35 from 30/06 with 22" magna ported barrel, I am thinking of chucking it up and cutting to about 16 3/4" to 17" and putting one of the tac type extendable camo stocks and fore ends on just for use in the trees. Always shoot 250 gr bullets so penetration is no prob. Any thoughts? | ||
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I would leave the barrel at 22 in. Muzzle blast will be significant with a short barrel. | |||
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If it is something you really want to do then do it. As far as a real benefit I don't see any and you are giving up the porting benefits you now have. | |||
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Me, I would simply cut off the magna port and enjoy. My own whelen is a bolt action with a 19" barrel. Muzzle blast is quite tolerable. As far as stocks go, whatever floats your boat. I have 2 760's, a .35 Rem and a .300 Savage and I couldn't see myself enjoying either with a 17" barrel. But that's me. I'd try it with the magna port cut off first and if you feel it is still too unwieldy then cut back to your heart's content. In the end, as long as you enjoy it & USE it, that's what counts. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I usually hunt on foot but have found a natural funnel where the elk travel between 2 other areas with more open access. The short barrel concept just seems right for tree work, and I absolutely detest the magna port or any other brake on a rifle. The adjustable stock is for the other guys that may hunt from stand, plus its a rifle that means very little to me so no prob if it does not work out. Thanks Mike I probably will just part off the port part first then try it | |||
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I hunted out of a lot of tree stands I really don't see the need for a short barrel. | |||
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I have a 7600 in .35 Whelen with 22" barrel when they came out in the early nineties, I also have a 7600 carbine in .30-06 with 18½" barrel and I have to agree with Snowman regards to muzzle blast. What I did with the Whelen to make it into a carbine is cut the barrel to 20" and shortened the LOP to 13" which makes it fit a lot nicer with heavy clothing in cold weather. The end result is now I have a carbine the same OAL as Remington's carbine but to my specs, not their's. | |||
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Cobra, do you think there would be a large difference in blast going from 20" to 18" but not from 22" to 20". Maybe it's the distance from the ear more than the sound increasing. When parting off the magna port portion of the barrel I will have to cut 2 1/4" so I will try it there then maybe shorten it more after shooting it | |||
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If your cutting to get rid of the noise the Magna Port causes, the cutting flush at a lesser distance from the ear will likely be worse. Think of it this way: instead of venting a bit of the gas Upwards at 18" you will be venting much more than that with a cut barrel. This from a guy who cut his 760 30-06 off with a hacksaw and finished with a file and then killed my first bull Elk the next morning with it. No real reason to cut it, just young and had a good sharp saw and file at the time. The Tactical stocks don't handle recoil all that well either as the Butt plates are small and the cheek weld rest the same or none at all depending on model. On a 250 Grain Whelen in a light gun anyway, that could be significant. I looked and did not find a Stock as you describe that would fit the 760. I did find non extendable ones that would. The 760 is made on the same size frame as the 20 gauge 870 and most of the TAC stocks are for 12 gauge 870's. Not saying you can't find one; just that I did not. Best regards, "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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Thank you everyone for your input. Fury01, as to the fit problem of the tactical stock maybe that will be a problem, probably your statement about them not handling recoil well is a larger issue. I was thinking with the 7600 in 223 and all the tac gear for them this would not be a prob, may be wrong. Heres the new plan- set the stand up set out some steel at varying ranges and directions and shoot the rifle as is, evaluate results(how much pain in ears) then cut magnaport off leaving as long as possible and re evaluate always using same load will post results. Thanks, Lynn | |||
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It took one google search to prove me wrong on the finding one... Looks cool and I would think would be fine in 223 but there is no cheek weld so on a hunting gun you want to hit with in 35 Whelen, don't know how that would work for you. Made by ATI REM7100ATI Remington 7600 Tactical Collapsible Stock Remington 7600 Tactical Buttstock Collapsible, six-position With Scorpion Razorback Buttpad and Pistol Grip Fits 7600, 760, 742, 740, 7615P AND 7400 Rifles Pump Action and Semi-Auto Rifles in all calibers. This Collapsible, six-position SHOTFORCE Buttstock with Pistol Grip and FREE Buttpad is patterned after the Colt CAR-15 style assault rifle. The buttstock is made from Matte Black Glass-Filled polymer. Stock is Compact Carry stock changes length of pull from 9-1/4" to 13-1/4". Includes sling swivel studs. Scratchproof and Weatherproof. Made in the USA. Lifetime Warranty. The Scorpion Razorback Buttpad offers additional stability and fits most AR-15 CAR type stocks, including the Shotforce Tactical 6-Position Buttstock. It has a checkered non-slip surface and provides air cushioned recoil reduction. • 6 Position Collapsible Stock • Pebble Grain Grip • Stock Adjusts Length of Pull from 9-1/4” to 13-1/4” • Sling Swivel Stud • Scorpion Razorback Buttpad • Slim, Ergonomically Designed Pistol Grip for Maximum Control • Pre-Drilled Holes For Tactical Shotshell Holder • DuPont Extreme Temperature Glass Reinforced Polymer • Manufactured in the USA • Limited Lifetime Warranty "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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+1 Most of my guns have 24"-27" barrels, not once have I been in a tree and wished I had a shorter barrel. ----------------------------------------------------- Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Proverbs 26-4 National Rifle Association Life Member | |||
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I am quite sure it would work wonders at tree stand ranges..but then so would a 30-06 with a 22 inch barel. The important thing is it's something you apparantly are carried away with doing so do it.... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Well put. Most of my rifles have 24" to 26" barrels too. That doesn't mean I try to talk every customer into building the same. I can guarantee that my 19" Whelen is much more pleasant to shoot in the field than a 22" magnaported barrel. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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