It seems like such a simple question for deer and antelope at ranges between 300 and 500 yards what would be the best selection for a bullet as to weight and construction (type) available today for use in a .270 Winchester.
Inside 500 yards I don't think it matters. Either the 150 or 130 will kill but the 150 has a statistical advantage past 500. Almost all 270 bullets are designed to work at those retained velocities from factory to Barnes to Balistic Tips, ad infinitum. Just find one that shoots well enough to give you the confidence to take that shot.
Posts: 11143 | Location: Texas, USA | Registered: 22 September 2003
I would use a 130 grain boattail like the Nosler Ballistic Tip, a Sierra boattail, or a Ballistic Silvertip. These bullets all have high ballistic coefficients, and they will all expand well at long range.
I have used all of these bullets in the .270 Win., and they all work very well. It has been my experience, though, that the Ballistic Silvertip and the Sierra boattails expand a little more slowly than the Nosler Ballistic Tips, and you are more likely to have complete penetration and a better blood trail with these.
The longest shot I have made with a .270 was on a doe in a soybean field at a stepped-off 355 long paces over flat ground. I was using a 130 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, and it really wholloped the doe and knocked her down.
The hit was quartering, and the bullet passed through one lung, the liver, and lodged in the hip bone on the far side after breaking it.
The deer did manage to get up and run about 75 yards into the woods before I could get a second shot, but she was dead when my Dad and I found her.
The only complaint I have is that there was not much of a blood trail other than at the point of impact. I don't know if a 150 grain Ballistic Tip would have punched on through the off-side hip or not. I have just never used 150 grain bullets much in the .270
Hope this helps!
Ole Miss Rebel
Posts: 27 | Location: Mississippi | Registered: 12 September 2003
308--for what it is worth I've gone to the 130 TS in my 270 for all shooting. Last year we took a couple of deer, 4 lopes and 2 elk at ranges of 50 yards to 488.
It worked wonderfully on all volunters!
I'd take a look at this bullet and see what you think if I was you.
"GET TO THE HILL"
Dogz
**do you spose we can get thru this thread without long range lectures and you're a shooter not a hunter comments?
Posts: 879 | Location: Bozeman,Montana USA | Registered: 31 October 2001
Quote: Inside 500 yards I don't think it matters. Either the 150 or 130 will kill but the 150 has a statistical advantage past 500.
Actually, I would think the 150 would gain an edge on the 130 even before 500 yards. Also, 140 boattails like the InterLock don't have too shabby of numbers at those long ranges, either.
RSY
Posts: 785 | Location: Central Texas | Registered: 01 October 2001
While this might go without saying, I think that narrowing your selection will be made easier after you shoot some of these bullets at 300 and 500 yards. 100 yard groups are a nice start but will tell you next to nothing about how they will fly at 300 and 500. So some shooting is in order. Personally I'd look to the 140 grain plastic tipped bullets as a starting point.
Posts: 457 | Location: Kentucky | Registered: 25 February 2002
Thanks for the input fellas, I have been looking to the 130 - 140 weights for their relative flatness of trajectory, but energy and blood trails do matter. Mark, what is a TS bullet, a moment of brain deadness here?
I agree in principal but we were being specific to deer and antelope here. Throw in something bigger and my answer would shift somewhat.
The fact is (to me anyway) that if you develop a load with a particular 270 bullet between 130 and 150 and practice to the point that you can make a responsible shot at those distances then that bullet (among the many adequate choices) has spoken for itself. No other factor need be considered at that point.
Posts: 11143 | Location: Texas, USA | Registered: 22 September 2003
I drew a California antelope tag this year. I'm planning on taking my .270 Win with either the 130 grain Nosler Partition or the 130 grain Hornady SST.
Both bullets shoot 1/2 MOA in my rifle, but I seem to have a bit more confidence in the Partition. The Partitions chronograph at 3,125 fps and the SST's average 3,135 fps. Pretty much the same speed. Do you think I am giving anything up in terms of long range accuracy by using the Nosler Partitions over the SST's?
Tim
Posts: 1430 | Location: California | Registered: 21 February 2001
Choose a fast expanding bullet in 130-140 or 150 grain. Even then you will get complete broadside penetration with Nosler Ballistic tips at ranges over 200-250 yards. You really do not need the partition here. The ballistic tip or SST will give you also a slight advantage in trajectory after 300 yards. It is a bit of a moot point, since in the open country the forever windy conditions make wind drift much more of a problem then bullet drop.
Posts: 101 | Location: Alberta ,Canada | Registered: 17 June 2004
The classic .270 Winchester recipe features a good 130 gr. bullet at 3150 fps. This is the fundamental ballistic parameter that the cartridge was designed around back in 1925, and it still gets the most out of it. I've been a big .270 fan for nearly twenty-seven years, and I've loaded and fired thousands and thousands of rounds of .270 Win. ammo, plus I've taken some of my very best trophy animals with it, including my best mule deer and best pronghorn, and at ranges out to just past 400 yds.
My favorite .270 load is the 130 gr. Nosler Partition, Winchester cases, Federal 215 primers, and IMR 4831 for 3160 fps., and I haven't found anything better to this day.
I've taken quite a few deer with the 140 gr. Hornady at 3000 fps., but I still like the 130 gr. Nosler Partition better. The only time I'd go with another bullet is the 150 gr. Partition for black bear, elk, and moose.
If you need a heavier bullet than the 150 gr., it's time to go with a bigger cartridge.........
I did not find the .270 Win lacking when it came to this California black bear. I was deer hunting when this fellow and I crossed paths. Shot him in the chest at approximately 75 yards. Full length penetration (exited groin due to slight angle). Very quick broadside follow-up shot thru both lungs. Bear didn't go more than 10 feet from where he was on my 1st shot.
Rifle is a Pre-64 M70 in 270 Win. Load was 130 grain Nosler Partition chronographed at 3,125 fps (about 60 grains of RL 22).
270 with 130 grain Partitions = Bad day for Mr. Bear
Tim
Posts: 1430 | Location: California | Registered: 21 February 2001
I did a fair amount of work to prepare for a prone shot at 400 yds (Leica 1200 rangefinder) a couple of winters ago. I built a target board on a real estate sign with a life size deer target. I practiced in the exact place that I planned to shoot. The setup was me facing due south in a place where a straight north wind is quite common. I would only take the shot with no detectable crosswind. Cleanly took a nice late season doe.
Anyway, I used Hornady 130 gr. SST at a slow 2850 (rifle just had a "slow" barrel).
I also used a Leupold 6.5x20 scope with target turrets. I used a "come up" clicks chart based on actual chrono'd velocity.
Posts: 648 | Location: Huskerville | Registered: 22 December 2001