I was wondering if you guys could help me?

Are the bullets Midaway list as "Combined Technology" the same as Nosler "CT Ballistic Silvertips"???

Also, if this is one and the same bullet, is what Nosler describe as a "lubalox coating" a form of moly coating?

Many thanks for your help, chris

Chris,

If I understand all the marketing jibberish correctly "CT" stand for "Combined Technology" and is a combined marketing & manufacturing effort between Nosler & Winchester.

I cannot recall which company, either Nosler or Winchester - actually manufacturers them although my guess would be Nosler.

With all this ignorance-in-action, I purchased three packages of 168 gr. .308" CT Ballistic Silvertips and managed a fantstically accurate load in my .30/06 Sprg., on European sized game (Roe, Fallow, Red Deer & Wild Boar) terminal performance was also excellent. If I could find another few boxes of the same batch would gladly remanufacture the same load.

I don't know what the black "Gunk" is on the bullets themselves - Lubalox, Moly, who knows? Sorry, but I can confirm that IME if you mix & match the same load with non-black (Moly/Lubaloy) bullets they shoot to an entirely different point of impact.

Chris, Gerry just about has it covered. They are the exact same bullet as a Nosler Ballistic Tip, just coated with a proprietary substance, called lubalox. It isn't moly, in fact CT makes a point to be sure and say it isn't moly.

I like them a lot. I shoot some in barrels that get a lot of rounds through them, and it reduces the cleaning I perform on these barrels. If you shoot them forma cleaned to bare metal barrel, I've found it may take as many as 30 rounds to get the barrel used to the lubalox coating, and begin to group well again.

This is a negative, but I've found I don't have to clean to bare metal to retain accuracy with these bullets, and as I mentioned, some of the rigs I use these bullets in see a lot of rounds, and maintain high levels of accuracy without cleaning to bare metal.

Gerry touched on this, but the non coated versions may impact differently than the coated models, for me some have, some have not.

I've found these bullets readily available, Cabela's, Midway, Lock Stock & Barrel, Shooters Pro Shop, and several others.

Good shooting--Don

Gentlemen ----- The Nosler Ballistic Silvertips and the Nosler Combined Technology bullet are not the same bullet by any means. The bullets were made by Nosler for Winchester. The combined tech bullets are the Nosler Partitions that have a steel cup around the rear partition. The Ballistic Silvertips are the Nosler Ballistictips, which lacks a lot being the tough bullet the Partitions are. The bullets were silver and black, what the coatings are would probably be told on the boxs. I don't know if they are still manufactured by Nosler for Winchester, but Nosler made them and Winchester sold them. ----- The Combined Tech bullets were a little tougher than the plain old Partitions because of that steel cup on the back partition. I used the Combined Tech bullet in a .340 Wby for Moose in Brown Bear country that worked like a dream, but I certainly would not have been shooting a colored up Ballistictip, if old Browny had a chance of making an appearance. They may have called both bullets the Combined Technology bullets but the Ballistic Silvertips were the Ballistic Tips. This is my knowledge for the bullets for what it is worth. Good shooting.

phurley Ole Pal.....

Combined Technology marketed three different bullets under their "CT" banner, Ballistic Silvertip, Partition Gold & Fail Safe.

The bullet you refer to with the Steel Core in the Base is the CT Fail Safe; yes; a much-o harder bullet-o than the Ballistic Silvertip we are discussing here.

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Originally posted by Gerry:
phurley Ole Pal.....

Combined Technology marketed three different bullets under their "CT" banner, Ballistic Silvertip, Partition Gold & Fail Safe.

The bullet you refer to with the Steel Core in the Base is the CT Fail Safe; yes; a much-o harder bullet-o than the Ballistic Silvertip we are discussing here.

I emailed nosler my question and had this as an answer,

"Lubalox is compatiable with a moly conditioned barrel"

so im thinking it is moly based and am going to try some out.

Thanks for the help guys.
chris

Chris,
Let us know how they turn out. I've thought about using them as well, but had a question about the Lubalox. Keep us posted. Thanks!