Is the .338-06 and the .338-06 A2 the same cartridge.
Jim

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Originally posted by jhaney:
Is the .338-06 and the .338-06 A2 the same cartridge.
Jim

Same cartridge, A Squared made an attempt to commercialize it a few years back.

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Originally posted by jhaney:
Is the .338-06 and the .338-06 A2 the same cartridge.
Jim

Yes

MRC or Ruger MK II as an action to start with? - both SS

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
MRC or Ruger MK II as an action to start with? - both SS

I presume you are asking for opinion regarding which action to use. My choice would be the Ruger. I had a Montana Rifle Co action once and didn't like several things about it, including the weight and workmanship. I paid dearly for it and had a heck of a time getting it sold, and finally let it go for a discount quite a bit less than the mfg asking price, and less than I paid for it.

On the other hand - Rugers are easy to sell or buy at a reasonable price, and they work.

Also it seems to me that the Rugers are easier to find stocks for. Several drop-in options come to mind.

Of course if you don't mind spending more, the MRC may be a good choice. With a custom stock, the cost will probably be close with either action.

I'm thinking of having a 338-06 made on a CZ 550 action that I got from Brownells. It's not stainless, but IMO it's a great action, which needs very little tweeking. It has a three position safety and a suitable trigger. Besides the action, I have a take-off CZ stock, like new, so basically all I need is a barrel.

KB

I was talking to a friend who reloads for his 338 RCM, and he told me he measured the case capacity of the 338 RCM and the 30-06 and he said that they were the same capacity. I thought that was pretty interesting. Basically that means to me that the 338 RCM and 338-06 are almost identical ballistically.

KB

just looking for ideas for a project. lots of Ruger MK II rifles floating around in SS for a decent price and McMillan makes good stocks for them.
thanks.

I've never met a McMillan stock that I didn't like.

KB

has anyone ever used ITD Custom Gun for rebarrelling and STILL looking for a M70 classic in LH with a .473 boltface for this project!!

Just in case you're interested, I've got a 338-06AI built on a VZ-24 mauser for sale. Comes with 80 pcs formed brass, a few 200 gr Hornady bullets, and a set of Redding dies. The rifle has been drilled and tapped and comes with base and rings, and has a Buehler low swing safety installed. It's coated in a plain black spray-on finish and sits in a Hogue overmolded stock.

The metalwork is good, so a guy could strip off the finish and have it blued. It shoots 1" or less all day long, so I never wanted to pull it all apart and mess with it to have it refinished. It's your basic killer of all things big and small. If a guy is looking to get into a 338-06, this is a complete package ready to go. Just add your press and start making ammo. I'm also open to trade this for a Ruger M77 MkII in 300 Win Mag. PM me for info until I get the ad up in the classifieds here...

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
just looking for ideas for a project. lots of Ruger MK II rifles floating around in SS for a decent price and McMillan makes good stocks for them.
thanks.

Well, I just got a McMillan stock for the Ruger MK II from classified here, and I have a Pac-Nor SS barrel in 12" twist three-groove, and a Ruger SS MK II in 30-06. Seems like a 376 Steyr is happening.

I've been thinking about it, and except for magazine capacity, I can't think of anything the 338-06 will do for me that I can't do with the 376. I can think of things that the 376 will do more-better than the 338-06. I don't recall ever needing more than two rounds anyway. To me, the 338-06 is a one-bullet rifle (225 gr somethingorother) and I can think of a variety of useful loads and bullet weights for the 376, from 220 gr to 300 gr, reduced loads to full blast.

KB

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Originally posted by Kabluewy:

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
just looking for ideas for a project. lots of Ruger MK II rifles floating around in SS for a decent price and McMillan makes good stocks for them.
thanks.

Well, I just got a McMillan stock for the Ruger MK II from classified here, and I have a Pac-Nor SS barrel in 12" twist three-groove, and a Ruger SS MK II in 30-06. Seems like a 376 Steyr is happening.

I've been thinking about it, and except for magazine capacity, I can't think of anything the 338-06 will do for me that I can't do with the 376. I can think of things that the 376 will do more-better than the 338-06. I don't recall ever needing more than two rounds anyway. To me, the 338-06 is a one-bullet rifle (225 gr somethingorother) and I can think of a variety of useful loads and bullet weights for the 376, from 220 gr to 300 gr, reduced loads to full blast.

KB

Just curious, you like 220gr bullets in the 276 but not lighter bullets in the 338-06, odd. why? The 338-06 works well w/ 185grNABs or TSX @ 28900fps for lighter gaame & 210grNP is magic @ 2750fps for anything. if you really need more, a 225grNAB or Swift or NP @ 2650fps works well but so does 250gr anything @ 2550fps. The onyl advantage to going 9.3 or .375 on an 06 size case is 286gr+ bullets IMO.

I was thinking of maybe some reduced loads using Hornady 220 gr FP bullets at 1800 - 2100 fps or so, for fun. Maybe some 225 Hornadys or Sierra 250 gr, reduced or full loads, depending on the game, and finally one of the 270 gr full power for moose, etc.

I see no need for light 338 bullets at high speed. Might as well use my 308. My 8x57 loaded with 200 gr bullets covers most of what the lighter bullets in the 338-06 covers, and the others overlap with the 270 gr in the 376. If I need the thump of a 250 gr 338 bullet, then surely it would be handy to have a 270 gr .375 at about the same speed. Besides, I can load H4895 in my 338 WM, and reduce the charge a little and duplicate anything the 338-06 can do, and at the same time add versitility to my 338 WM.

KB

Well yo uare right, if yo uhave a 338winmag, no need for a 338-06 unless you just want one. I just wanted one. I don't care for the 30-06, the Whelen was interessting, but good bulelts were scarce when I built my 338-06. The 9.3x62 is a great choice but for NA, not quite flat shooting enough IMO. Nice to have choices huh?

Choices are nice, but sometimes it is difficult to make a decision. As I thought about the 338-06, it seems in my mind to be a one bullet weight cartridge for everything I would use it for, which could be practically everything. In a way, that makes it simple. The 225 gr with 12" twist will do everything I would want to do with the 338-06. Swift or Barnes (maybe 210 for Barnes) when it must hold together and penetrate, perhaps one of the Hornadys or Noslers for everything else. Grafs generally has bulk Sierras in 225 gr BT.

Anyway, the 338-06 is a good idea, but after thinking about it, for me it's one of those in-between cartridges, much bigger than necessary for deer and hogs and black bear and such, and if I took a 338 elk or moose or griz hunting there would be no need to use anything but the 338 WM for its extra edge.

I've been thinking of developing some mild loads for my 338 WM. Might as well. Cheaper than a new rifle.

KB

thanks, captain but i'm left handed so it wouldn't work for me.

i have to admit my real fantasy would be to have Mark Penrod work over a M70 classic and rechamber to 338-06; sort of an Echols lite. i've seen Penrod's work here from other members and it certainly looks wonderful!

I doubt very much that theres more than a couple inches of penetration difference between the 210 TSX and the 225 with the heavier bullet going slightly slower than the lighter one. I am a real fan of the 338 I would build a 338-06 given the chance even though I have a 338 win. Yep, I'd have one in 338-06 just to try the Barnes 160 grain, and the 185 grain.