For similar rifles in calibers like 30-06, 300 wm, 338 wm, etc ?
Thanks
LG

I find it to be a little more intense than the 30-06. Definately not abusive.

About like a 338-06...if that's any help. Definitely less than a 338 mag. I personally think that, given the round's potential, its recoil is light. I can shoot 30-40 rounds from the bench with no trouble whatsoever. I'm shooting a CZ 550 American, by the way, with a 1.75x5 Burris Safari scope....pkg weighs about 8 lbs. Gary.

Guys,
I will start building one in a mauser 98 action!!
Just bought a Lothar Walther barrel already chamber for 9,3x62, it's 26 inches long.
I'm planning to put a timney trigger with the 3 position safe system.
What you think about?
Any recomendations?
Thanks
LG

If you are concerned about recoil, I would not work at keeping your rifle light. Mine with scope weighs about 10lbs. I used a heavy barrel contour. I would consider retaining the full length of your barrel, however, I would use a barrel band so that it rides lower when carried on the shoulder.

I'd use a synthetic stock (sorry guys) because it is so stable. I would equip it with basic iron sights as well as a scope.

It is a wonderful cartridge; extremely capable within 250meters within which it will retain a six inch point black range with 250BT's. I used one on my last trip to AFrica, and it killed everthing that was hit solid with one shot. (I hit several animals in the leg with my first shot. My fault not the rifle's.) Because of its low velocity, it does not tear up a hide badly. I shot animals from 15lbs to 200lbs, and it performed flawlessly.

I used the 250gr Nosler BT loaded to about 2500fps. This was so slow everyone but me saw the bullet going to the target. However, it held together well and did not tear up animals badly. I put a picture of a bush buck I shot at about 10 paces up on the board. The "exit" side is facing the camera, so you have an idea how small the exit wound was. However, it killed the animal right there. The shot knocked the animal down on its side and it did not get up.

I think you will love you rifle. Ku-dude

Lorenzo.

The 9,3x62 is excellent caliber for slightly heavier game.
When it comes to recoil, my opinion is that it is all about practice. And I would believe that when you get your gun ready with the Mauser action and that long barrel, you will not end up with a light rifle.

My 9,3x64 Brenneke is also build on a Mauser action, and I have a shorter Lotar-Walther barrel than you. I have spend alot of time at the range, and the now the recoil don't bother me at all.

So get yor gun ready and practice, and I'll guarantee that the recoil won't bother you either.

Good luck

Magnar

Definitely �06 class. I think the High energy loadings kick ( slightly more ). The CZ 550 Stutzen I�m using has a good quality recoil pad ( "Medium" ), so I�m sure in CZ�s the 06 will kick harder. Because of ( poor ) stock design the gun raises on recoil. But its only a push ( perhaps because of that stock design ??? ).

I hear many stories about the kick of a .300 Win mag. I hear of nobody having that problem with the 9.3x62 ...

Hermann

Lorenzo,

I am extremely recoil shy. My 9.3x62 is not light (steel scope, mounts and cap grip) A full power 232gr load or a factory velocity 2,300fps 286gr load is fine for a 5 round group and I don't even notice it when I shoot at game.

Going for broke with the 286gr bullets ratchets up the recoil rapidly - I would not like to shoot the Speer book max loads!

Thank you guys, very good recomendations.
LG

Lorenzo, what type of M98 action are you using?

Also, which barrel contour of the Lothar Walther did you order? A friend and I are each building 9.3x62s, mine on a VZ24 and his on a German action. We are looking at the "varmint" weight barrel. -Fred

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Originally posted by Lorenzo:
Guys,
I will start building one in a mauser 98 action!!
Just bought a Lothar Walther barrel already chamber for 9,3x62, it's 26 inches long.
I'm planning to put a timney trigger with the 3 position safe system.
What you think about?
Any recomendations?
Thanks
LG

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Mine is on an 09Argentine. I've said it before but the standard magazine box is a tight fit for 3.2" COL unless you have a very tight grip on the bullets. I have to use the cannelure on the 286gr bullets or very tight neck grip and a shorter COL for the 232gr vulkans which don't have the cannelure.

You can get a smith to put recoil strips in the box to limit tip damage but the one under the bolt will get damaged by the feed ramp. Probably makes no difference.

For reliable feeding it's 3 rounds only unless you get someone to work on it.

1894, by converting a 1909 action ( which from design is one of the finest!! I wish I knew who decided on the differences to other 98�s. He must have been a rifleman! I mean bolt stop and mag plate release ) you should be able to put 4 rounds without modification. If you relieve in the shoulder area, which, if done properly will act as a stop for the cartridges, too, 5 will fit.

Hermann

Fred,
Sorry i don't answer before but a cold keep me in bed for a couple of days.It seems I'm getting old (35).
The barrel is 1,7 cm wide at the mouth and 3 cm at the end, just before the part you screw into the action.
The mauser action is an argentinian 1909, my idea is to use the hole length of the barrel (26") the smith says it will look as a fishing rod but I don't mind.
Also he recomend me to use a voelher trigger or something like that, instead of the timney,never hear it before.
A friend of mine who lives in Austria will bring me solid RWS bullets and H-Mantels.
Please I will aprecciate any ideas.
Thanks
LG

I�ve heard about those RWS 286 grs Solids, never seen one. The H mantel in 7x57R will kill, but do so slowly. Don�t know about 9.3. I will test 286 grs Lapua ( strenghtened rear section, core lock, very flat nose ) and PMP�s RNSP ( very few lead at point ) as soon as I see some fitting game. No luck for three tries. For smaller game I might use 232 or 250 grs bullets.

Arent there Woodleigh Solids in 286 grs? I don�t want to try 320�s as the trajectory must be murder, and the SD of 286grs looks good enuff.

Have fun! Hermann

AHunter,

You can fit 4 in but it won't feed reliably because there is so little taper on the case. Consequently the shoulders of the rounds bear against the rails and the head is free to wiggle up and down which means the bolt can ride over without picking up. This only happens on chambering the first round but it does happen. Completely stock 09 and follower. I use it with 3. If I go to Africa in 25 years time I will get it sorted out for 4.

Hola Lorenzo

For bullets the soft in 286 it's THE 9,3 bullet , it's not an high velocity round and then you don't need H mantles , very expensive and I dislike the behavior , your friend could buy in Austria S&B 286 very cheap and accurate an ideal bullet for practice , and Norma 286 Oryx or Vulcan for hunting if you prefer ligth ones KS in 250 grains are OK , for triggers I like the Kepplinger ( Austrian made ),if you need cases check www.ebay.de search wiederladen , there are a seller for one fired cases in 9,3 .

Saludos

Daniel

Daniel,
Muchas gracias!!!
Arriba Espa�a!!!!!
Saludos
Lorenzo

My son and I both have the 9.3 x 62. I have a custom Husky Mauser and he has a new CZ 550 American.
We are loading up some Nosler 250 grn Ballistic Tips and the old standby 286 Grn, Nosler Partitions. We will be using RL 15 powder. According to Ray Atkinson he has had some eye opening results with the 250 BT's on elk and deer.
He has used the 286 grns. many times in the pastin Africa with good results.
The 9.3 recoils about as much as my '06 Ackley Improved. It is a joy to shoot. I can't say the same about my 338 Win. Mag.

The 9.3 x 62 kicks like a 30-06 with 220 grain bullets. It is really quite mild.

I've just weighed my 9.3 - it weighs 3.1 kgs (~ 7 lbs). I use 286 gn Norma heads. At that weight it is a pleasure to carry in one hand the whole day.

One shot is all it has ever needed.

At this weight recoil can be fierce but one must learn how to ride with it - not to try and avoid it.

I teach newcomers to press their cheek firmly against the stock and to stretch their neck as far forward as they can. This way the head rides back with the recoil and no damage occurs.

If the head is held loosely, or worse still, is held backwards away from the action then it has no option but to whip forward into the stock recoiling the other way and OUCH!

Any of these high energy calibres are fine for firing from the standing position. I have watched my brother moving backwards by 50mm/shot while firing a 8 x 68 in the prone position. Not a very efficient way of travelling! He also complained about the recoil.

Lorenzo - on my 9.3 the barrel measures 15mm at the muzzle, 30mm at the K98 action and is 570mm long, semi octagon profile - accurate out to 150 - 180m.

good luck with your rifle - it's a calibre that speak with great authority - at both ends!

regards edi

Lorenzo,
Try a Blackburn trigger you will like it better as it sits back in the trigger guard and is milled steel...

The 9.3x62 recoils about like a 30-06 with 220 gr. bullets as someone stated...

I like the 286 Nosler partition in Africa..My Buff load is the 320 gr. Woodleigh soft and solid, mostly solids at 2400 FPS plus..and I have had no problem with trajectory up to 300 yds with it...The balistic tips are pretty tough and work like a charm on broadside shots on about anything up to but not including Eland if you hit the shoulder bone...Your best solid, hands down is the GS Custom flat nose solid...

The nice thing about the 9.3x62 is that its not tough on bullets and most work well with the exception of the Speer 270 gr. bullet which is made out of tapioca pudding, very soft indeed.

Lorenzo, from looking at your measurements and comparing to the Lothar Walther weg page it looks like you selected the longer sporter weight barrel. My colleague and I are using the "varmint" weight, heavier barrel, it will be interesting to compare weights when these rifles are completed. I was confused about the "varmint" label in the beginning, doesn't look like it's offered in prairie dog calibers. Perhaps a varmint to a European barrel maker is a buffalo, elephant, etc.? -Fred

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Originally posted by Lorenzo:
Fred,
Sorry i don't answer before but a cold keep me in bed for a couple of days.It seems I'm getting old (35).
The barrel is 1,7 cm wide at the mouth and 3 cm at the end, just before the part you screw into the action.
The mauser action is an argentinian 1909, my idea is to use the hole length of the barrel (26") the smith says it will look as a fishing rod but I don't mind.
Also he recomend me to use a voelher trigger or something like that, instead of the timney,never hear it before.
A friend of mine who lives in Austria will bring me solid RWS bullets and H-Mantels.
Please I will aprecciate any ideas.
Thanks
LG

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For plinking and practise I will load the Speer 270 grains bullets, they are cheap and I like to shoot a lot. For hunting I will use the 286 grain Nosler Partition. -Fred

A friend of mine who lives in Austria will bring me solid RWS bullets and H-Mantels.
Please I will aprecciate any ideas.
Thanks
LG[/QB][/QUOTE]

Yes, it is a tight fit. I bought a longer M98 magazine box (a military M98 part, don't know what model it was from but it is longer than the standard box) and fitted it to my VZ24 action. -Fred

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Originally posted by 1894:
Mine is on an 09Argentine. I've said it before but the standard magazine box is a tight fit for 3.2" COL unless you have a very tight grip on the bullets. I have to use the cannelure on the 286gr bullets or very tight neck grip and a shorter COL for the 232gr vulkans which don't have the cannelure.

You can get a smith to put recoil strips in the box to limit tip damage but the one under the bolt will get damaged by the feed ramp. Probably makes no difference.

For reliable feeding it's 3 rounds only unless you get someone to work on it.

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aww, man... it's just 230ish grains... can get 2500 fps with a 220 outta 3006...recoil is there, but it's less than 30 lbs...

I know I got a little recoil insenstive shooting 416 and 577..
jeffe

Its no great trick to open the back of the 09 Argentine box up 50 thousands and you can do that with your fingernail, but a 3 corner file is better....file it as thin as you want in the back, but don't get so carried away as to weaken the box, but that part doesn't take any stress. thats a lot of room to seat a bullet out, so be sure you gunsmith cuts the chamber to fit the magazine, most don't even consider this unless you make them do it.

Lorenzo

Regarding trigger, I would suggest a Reck-nagel all steel trigger. It costs about 70� from germany. I bought one and has never wished anything else. Black burn has quite a delivery time depending how his production and set up.

Reck- nagel site is: www.recknagel.de

Good Luck

/ JOHAN