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I've got a Remington 700 Classic in a .308 and I'm most likely going to get a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40. I'm assuming I need medium height rings but which would fit better? Also, should I get one-piece, two-piece, detachable....not really sure. I've looked at the Burris Sig rings but their are different kinds....Supreme, Trumount, Double Dovetail.....I'm a bit confused. Can someone help shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
 
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IMO

The best bases and rings are Talley. The next best are the Warne or Weaver style bases. Then the dual dovetail and the bottom is the kind with a single dovetail in the front and windage screws on the rear base. Those windage screws are the problem. They can become loose and have to be installed perfect into the circular groove on the rings.

One advantage of using the dual dovetail is that you can later get extension rings for the front dovetail to move the scope back so you can get a clear sight picture if you need to.

So for all around general use

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=180224

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=591925

Simple and solid.


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I'm with Woods, Talleys are the shiznalley! They really aren't that much more money in the long run, and they have both QD and fixed rings (bases remain the same regardless)

As to whether you need QD's or just fixed, I would say that depends on your typical/intended use for this rifle. If you travel a lot, it is nice to pop your scope off, put it in your carry on pack and stick it back on when you get to your hunting destination. Switching a scope around from rifle to rifle is not very practical IMO, but I have done it ocassionally, and I didn't like it! If this rifle will be a rifle you take to some locations where you aren't flying around, and you use it regularly for the same purpose and wouldn't need different scopes for it, just go with the fixed Tallley's and be done with it.

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Woods,

Are these the rings and mounts you mean from Talley?
 
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Woods,

Are these the rings and mounts you mean from Talley?


Hey teesh

No, although those would be very good. First, the model numbers are the same, but the link you gave was in the long action category. The 308 is in the short action category.

I have always used the 2 piece base system and fixed rings. Once they are on they will stay put. These are the bases

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=676906

these are the rings

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=621996

One advantage to having separate bases and rings is if you change scopes to a 30mm tube then you only have to buy new rings to fit the installed bases.

On a 308, you might have a better idea with the lightweight integral rings and bases. Here is the link to Talley

http://www.talleyrings.com/


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Go with Talleys.


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Teesh, I have not used the Talley rings or bases, so I don't have an opinion on them. I have noticed alot of people on the forum recommend them. I have used several of the Leupold one piece standard bases & I have at least one rifle with two piece bases. I have not had any problems with either. I have recently mounted a Leupold 3-9X40 using the Burris Signature rings with the plastic inserts. The medium ring height was perfect for this scope on my rifle.
 
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I have (3) 700 Classics with 3-9x40s and I use Warne 2 piece with LOW rings. The cheek weld is excellent and the set up is rock solid. i have no experience with the Talley's but it sounds like they are great too.

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Teesh,

Do you plan on removing the scope once mounted?

If not, there's no real need for detachables.

Rings and bases are also an aesthetical preference, There are plenty of good quality strong rings on the market. If you go w/ Talley, Leupie, Burris, Warne, etc., they are all good quality rings and bases.

I personally like the looks of a dual dovetail set of rings and bases.

Good Luck w/ your choice.

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If you want light one piece rings that mount direct to action like Talleys with no bases keeps scope low, you can go to a better quality than Talleys, go to www.rwhart.com and look at there rings top notch stuff about $70 only 2o/z and solid.
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My first choice would be Leupold dual dovetail bases and Burris Signature rings. Everything else is a very distant secong place.

The main issue I have with the Talley verticle split rings rings is that they cannot be lapped to full contact with the scope tube and they have no provision to deal with an action that is slightly off on either the bridge heights or the drilling. In either case, the verticle split Talleys will crush the scope tube and leave crush markings on the scope tube at least or bind up the innards of the scope at the worst. Other than the Burris Signatures, all other ring mounts can and will frequently do the same thing. At least with a horozontal split ring you can lap the ring bottoms into parrallel and the rings tops with then follow the scope conture.

IMO vertically split rings are a big step backwards from ANY horozontally split rings.

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I have never had a problem with the standard leupold bases and rings. If your rifle like many thees days has any of the holes drilled off center you might need the windage adjustment to help you zero.
another factor to consider is that the closer to the center of your scope the cross hairs are the better the scope will perform. So I allways try to zero the windage with the bases
first before I use the dials,,,tj3006


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Yo really don't need anything fancy with a .308. Standard Leupold or Burris rings and bases will work just fine and do offer extension rings if you need them. I would favor the single dove tail two piece base with an extension ring forward. On light to medium recoilers I have had very good results with this system.
 
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I like Leupold dual dovetail. Mount them perfecly strait and lap them in as ALL rings should be lapped even Talley and you will have a NEVER fail mount that wont slip or mark your scope.


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IMO the advantage with detachable rings is that you can take a spare pre-sighted in scope for emergency use. This may not sound like a big deal until you're 10000 miles from home with a bad scope and no iron sights. The simple fact is that if you have a spare you'll probably never need it, and that's a good thing. If you're never far from home or spending a lot of money on a trip, no big deal.


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I just bought a set of Leupold PRW's and I'm set on these rings for awhile but if another gun comes along then I'll look at Talleys' for the heck of it.


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I have been using Talley one piece lightweights on most of my guns lately and highly recommend them. That being said I have used the Leupold 2 piece STD bases & rings and Weaver style for years without any issues.

-Lou
 
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