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Is the 260 rem. starting to come back? Ruger has it listed as one of the calibers that they offer in their new FTW/saam Hunter rifle. Hornady now has it listed as a new offering. | ||
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I am fixing to own three 260 rem rifles .They are super accurate and you can make the brass out of 243,308 ,and 7mm08 .I have shot some awesome groups with my.two savage rifles fixing to get an ar10-in It .It's an awesome kids caliber too way.better than the 243.I like 22 inch barrels in it .It has alot of power and long.range accuracy from such a small case too .I hope it comes back big time ! | |||
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i too enjoy my .260 rem. i bought years ago, Ruger M77- mark-II S.S. yes, it needs to come back strong | |||
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Who cares? If YOU like it, buy one. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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My Tikka T3 with the 1:8 twist rocks with the heavies . . .  | |||
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I bought my daughter a Stainless Mt. Rifle in 260. She LOVES it!!! She told me she will never sell it. | |||
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The Remington Sps 8 twists are hit and miss. I have 2. One shoots excellent. Should sell the other one... | |||
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I picked up a like new Savage a couple years ago in 260, just to try. It shoots light V maxs into a ragged hole and everything else up to 140 gr to the same spot. Shoots far better than a cheap rifle like this should shoot. Nothing wrong with the caliber.Could be the best caliber for a youngster or smaller framed person to start with. | |||
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260, a modern day 257 Roberts. velocity is like a new car, always losing value. BC is like diamonds, holding value forever. | |||
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What is the best use for a .243? Re-barrel it into a 7-08 or a .260. Then you've got a worthwhile rifle. I have a .260 and both of my grandkids have one. Don't know whether it's "coming back" or not. With each rifle, I bought a set of dies and 300 cases. I've not much reason to worry either way. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Yes it's having a resurgence, IMO due to the popularity of the 6.5 Creedmoor. 6.5s are finally gaining some acceptance with Americans. I have a 260 Savage bbl, but sold the 243 I was going to put it on. Likely will just sell that, but still tempting, its a great round If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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 The .260 is a good cartridge. Will it make a come back? No! In order to make a come back it would have had to be a success to begin with. I'm trying to be objective when I say ,It wasn't! History shows that the 6.5s have never been popular in the US.  The competition in that caliber (6.5) is just too great at this time. The competition in small and medium bore hunting rifles is even greater! The ammo companies will never support it so it becomes a reload special.Shades of the 30-40, .222, .222Mag., .220 swift, .244 and on and on.  I wish I was wrong but I don't think so! roger  Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I was a huge fan but wouldn't touch another since 6.5 CM came along. Especially with the available factory ammo.. | |||
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6.5CM, a modern day 260. | |||
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Have a 260 barrel on my Striker right now. All sorts of fun. Getting good numbers too. Society of Intolerant Old Men. Rifle Slut Division. | |||
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The Bob! Just about a perfect balance if stepping down from the 270. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Resurgent or not it will always be the best thing that ever happened to the 308 case. It is the perfect blend of bullet weight, velocity, trajectory, and low recoil. | |||
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Assuming the 260 is twisted correct and throated accordingly. Creedmore got it right out of the gate. | |||
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And I concur. Like the Bob, the 260 and the 6.5Cm have a reasonably balanced capacity for the smaller bore. The Bob was there long ago but was overshadowed by the 243 and currently forgotten by the rifle makers. Maybe they will come up with a marketing idea in a few years: the Bob comes in a standard length action, which will allow long, long bullets in the (long) short 2.23" case (about halfway between 2.01" and 2.5"). This takes the Creedmore marketing idea of shorter case for longer bullets and adds 9% capacity over the 6.5, 5% over the 260. When stepping down from the 30-06/280/270 trio, the 260 and the Bob and 257 AI provide more punch than the 243. Yes, a nice compromise. Depending on the barrel length, the 260 can produce muzzle energies of 2100 to 2400 ftlbs., which means a 120 grain bullet at 3000 fps. A person can do a lot of hunting with that. Even a 140grain bullet at 2750fps. But when going up to .30 caliber the case capacity of the 30-06 is more of the hunter's friend than the ammo carrying convenience of the .308. The trio of 30-06, 280, 270 are sort of like medium-bore magnums to the short case crowd, at least for handloaders. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I have built a 260 Remington for a friend in Africa, he shoots everything with it, including buffalo! He has old English double rifles in large calibers, but finds getting ammo is very expensive and hard to get. He uses our own Walterhog bullets, 138 grains. | |||
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Nice. Out on thin ice, but nice. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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To Saeed's comment; isn't that the way it is out side of the theory of what's "best" in these matters? It works. I like it. I keep using it. I am sure your friend has a fine hunting rifle. "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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On this side of the Atlantic the 260 has gained some traction, but the 6.5x55 is much more popular and ammo readily available. A friend had a very nice 260, but he now uses a 308 which is more than accurate enough, not really any more discernible recoil and Terminal effect is very good. | |||
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I built a 24" barreled AR10 in 260 and shoot paper with it out to 1,000 yards. It's a fun, low recoiling, accurate round. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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If you get one with 1 in 8 inch twist, you then have a 6.5X55 twin. With 125 gr Partition at 2900 fps it becomes a 270 Win for elk. With 160gr Hornady RN at 2500 fps it will be great for bear. With 140gr SP bullets at 2700 fps it will be ideal for deer sized animals out to 300 meters. Not too far behind a 7X57. 20 years ago I had a Sako & a Mod 70 in 6.5X55 and so I decided not to get a 260 Rem. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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The beauty of the 260 Remington, like the 7mm-08 is that the 308 Win parent case can simply be necked down and used so there will never be a shortage of brass whether factory ammo is loaded or not. Unlike the 243 and 358 which are the lower and upper end of the scale for factory rounds based on the parent 308 case, and along with the 308 do fulfill distinctive roles in terms of bullet weights and purpose, the 260 uses the same bullet weights as the 7mm-08 (120gr and 140gr factory loads) but due to the smaller diameter just doesn't quite get them up to the same velocity as the 7mm cartridge. The 7mm-08 fills the slot between the 243 and 308 very nicely and has all the attributes of the 260, lower recoil and noise, good terminal ballistics, very accurate, etc., but then has better performance and always will have a better range of projectiles. Nothing wrong with the 260 or any of the 6.5mms if you want one but they all only ever play catch up to the 7mms. | |||
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I think that the 260 would make a better youth deer rifle than the 243.
Well, I think I would prefer a 130 gr partition or 129gn LRX in .277" at 3150fps, or maybe a 150gn AB 270Win at 2900fps, thank you very much. They could all work, but in the real world I'd probably just take a 338WM for elk. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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My son will be carrying a Ruger 77 mark II 260 on his first elk hunt this November. 140 Nosler Partition. Not a single worry about the outcome if he delivers the shot correctly. "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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 There is a lot of positive good reading on this thread about the .260  The question however is " will it make a come back"? roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Yes. No. "Comeback" is a relative term. It came back to my house. "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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No not off topic. We all could have answered the OP's question with a simple yes or no. Then what, end of conversation? Most have given varying but all valid reasons as to why they think the 260 will or won't make a come back. Most often the reason why a perfectly good cartridge dies is because there are others very similar who have had, and continue, to fill the niche better. The 260 sits in the company of the 243, 7mm08, 308, 358 all well established factory cartridges (some established for years previous as wildcats) and all with great reputations; who needs the little imposter who does nothing the others don't do better in their particular niche  | |||
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uber good round. mine is rem 700 ti likes 125 nosler pt. | |||
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The 260 is a great round, that like many, was marketed and supported badly. Remington has a history of doing that... It was huge for years in the competition world and Hornady rolled out the 6.5 Creedmore which is virtually a ballistic twin...and supported it with good ammo...and now, the 260 is trying to catch up. Remington failed to put it in great rifles and the twist rate limited it to relatively light bullets, fine for hunting...but not much else. Factory ammo used to be limited. In the competition world, Lapua picked it up which is likely one of the things that saved it. Now, it has real possibilities as certain special units within various governments run it in a semi-auto precision rifle and it is ideal for this. It drops in to most 308 caliber platforms with a simple barrel swap. Same bolt, magazine, and receiver...that's a huge gain for large units, from a logistics standpoint. Ammo makers see this and Federal started rolling out decent match grade ammo. Most of the PRS rifles have gone to 6mm as it has less recoil but 250/6.5 is still very viable. | |||
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I’ve had two .260s, an M7 and my current M700VLS. Both accurate, took a caribou with the M7. With 90 grain Speers the M700 is a fine long range varmint rifle, better than my .243. IME it is a better game rifle than a .243 and almost equal to a 7-08....the difference is bullet weight. It soundly beats the Bob when heavy buckets matter. It will never make anything resembling a big comeback. More’s the pity.... . | |||
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It will be interesting to see how the 6.5 Creedmore survives in the market in 10 years or so. Both it and the .260 Rem started out as target rounds and both have been touted as the best thing ever. But the .260 now struggles mainly for the reasons given above and the 6.5 is all the latest fashion for the time being. Both are roughly equivalent to each other since both fit in a short action and offer much the same velocity. Most buyers in the open market are hunters not target shooters so once the newness wears off what happens then? There's a long history of similar cartridges that were popular today and relegated to obscurity the next. I admit to being pretty dedicated to 6.5x55 Mauser that both other cartridges somewhat duplicate. It also has a proven track record of accuracy and has a long history of load development as a target round. Yes I'm aware of the supposed advantages of a true short action verses the mausers medium action but since I like most here are hunters these advantages really don't mean much since I don't haul around a target configured rifle when hunting. The Mauser round also offers a wider bullet range then either of the others and isn't too hard to find loaded ammo in most stores. In practical terms which one is best? Who knows. If I had any one of them I would just shoot what I had and be happy. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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These are all nice choices. I would probably pick one up if we didn't already have a 270 in the safe. The discussion is enjoyable because we might find a close-out sale or two in the near future. Let's see if and when a 6.5x55 or 260 or 6.5Crd is offered on closeout in either a Ruger Amer., Ruger Hawkeye, or Tikka. I have 6 six grandsons, and three granddaughters count, too, 'cepting one shows some reluctance, maybe from classmates in California elementary schools. PS: Tikka uses a modified standard action for its short actions. Could one use a Tikka 270 magazine and alter the bolt-stop if they wanted to long-load a 6.5x55 or 260 to a COAL beyond SAAMI? Yes, thinking deviously here.  +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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The 6.5x55 has always been a great caliber but it has a non standard head size and has never enjoyed much support over here. It did however spawn the .260 and the 6.5 Creedmoor over here. It's hard to keep a good idea down for long. Each has their own virtues and each is a great hunting and target round if built right. The .260 really cries for a long action to seat heavier bullets out farther but can be used successfully in the short action. The differences on target are small. I never knew that the .260 had ever actually fallen out of favor. Lots of people like it because of it's case availability. The Creedmoor is a little harder to scrounge cases for from other calibers but it can be done. Remington did drop the ball on the .260 and suffered for it but they are offering it now. Like most of Remington's offerings they didn't put much thought into it. It's really just a matter of preference as to what one wants. The .260 and the Creedmoor both are fine and easy to get factory ammo for. The Creedmoor is still supported a little better in that regard. The 6.5 Lapua is a great short action round and is used a lot in competition but not well supported over here. For a person that wants to purchase good factory ammo to hunt with either the .260 or the Creedmoor is a great choice. They both have a lot of virtues. Joe | |||
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Never hunted in Africa, nor Alaska. Nor have I killed a bear or elk or moose. I don't own a 260 nor a 6.5CM and probably won't, as I have a couple of 6.5x55's, a 7x57 and a 30-06. They fit my needs. Shoot Safe, Mike NRA Endowment Member | |||
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Joe, you can seat the bullets extra long in a TikkaT3x. The Tikka's are light, slick, and accurate. Get a 260, then file back the bolt stop to whatever COL you want and use the 'long' magazine. Tikka uses an 8" twist for the 260. Filing the bolt stop looked pretty easy on youtube. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Also Joe, only the foreign made 6.5x55 cases have the different case head diameter. The American cases AND rifles all have the more standard (for America) case head size .473, just like the .308 or 30-06. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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