I had a 284 built on a rem 700 short action a few years ago but never could seat heavier bullets as far out as I wanted.
I would like to build something else on the 284 case. 25 or 6.5? Has anyone had experience with this case using a standard length action?Were there any feeding problems etc. Thanks

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Has anyone had experience with this case using a standard length action?

please define standard length....long or short would help!

Henry
My son has a .284 Win in an old Ruger M77 Flatbolt rifle that I load for. It is a "regular action" however it seems to be throated to the factory or standardized COL.
I have loaded 120's, 130's, 140's and 150's in this setup very accurate and no problems with plenty of velocity. I have never felt the need to load heavier than 150's in the .284 so have never experienced the "problem" people speak of with case capacity. This round really shines with 140's.
Good luck with yours.

Same question's been on my mind.

I recently picked up (nearly stole) a Daly Zastava Mauser in 30-06. I was thinking about a 6.5-284 conversion with the ability to seat the bullets way out. Just didn't know if there'd be any feeding issues???

I did own a 6.5 x .284 and it was a rifle that served me quite well. Having said that however if I had a "std. action" with a magazine that allowed a 3.3" oal I would definitely vote for the 6.5-06. Results are as good or better, no feed problems, usually, and often holds an additioal round. roger

I have loaded for a friend's .25-284 for many years. It is built on an FN Mauser action with a 3.3" magazine. Feeding is flawless. I'm not sure whether any work was done to the magazine rails or not. It is used exclusively for colony varmints, has a 26.5" medium-heavy straight taper barrel, and doesn't lack for velocity.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
...vote for the 6.5-06. Results are as good or better, no feed problems, usually, and often holds an additioal round. roger

Yes, and though you seldom need it, I just like the extra round thing.

Winchester went out of their way to design a 280rem/7mm-06 equivelent cartridge that would fit in a short (308) length
action, primarily for the model 88 lever and model 100 semi-auto

then thought it "looked cool" (any other reason seems even thinner) they put it into bolt actions, THEN people complained that they couldn't seat the bullet out to prevent the bullet from taking propellant space, NOTE that most of the loads reached max before they got close to filling the case,in any event they put it into a long action....

and wind up with an odd-ball equivelent of a 280rem.

DUDE! you could've just bought a 280Rem!

Or if you MUST have something "different" (for whatever reason) get a 280RemAI.


we can have the exact same discussion about the 6.5x284 Vs the 6.5-06...

Then the people who actually HAVE a 280Rem or the 280RemAI constantly patter on about how it's "as good as a 7mmMag"

a)It isn't.
b)It can be ALMOST as good as factory stuff if they "push the envelope"
c)Why do they think I care?

If they actually feel so secure about their choice why do they need to constantly justify it to themselves (nobody else is even momentarily fooled by the weasel words they use)?

Sorry for the philosophical musing...

Please excuse my hillbilly stupidity. I have always considered 3.3 a standard action and 2.8 a short action. If this is wrong please correct me, so I dont make a mule out of myself again.
Dude, my 284 is fine. I dont need a 280 or 06 anything. I am thinking of building a 25/284.
Has anyone had experience with a 284 case on a 3.3 length action? Thanks for the help most of you have given. Henry

Henry,
I happen to be a Hillbilly myself, and I just helped a shooting buddy build a 6.5-284 on a Savage 110 action. He has experienced no feeding issues that I know of and accuracy is pretty good with everything we have tried in it except the 125 grain Nosler Partition. His barrel and mine were both 8 twist Broughton 5C barrels and mine won't shoot the 125 grain Noslers too well either. Both rifles will really shoot with the Berger 140 grain VLD, if one were going to have feeding issues I think that would cause it, OAL with the Bergers seated .005 off the lands is 3.064. BTW my rifle is a stainless Ruger #1 V and on a good day it will slip 5 of those long pointy Bergers in to the mid .3s at 200 hundred yards. The Savage will equal it accuracy wise if the planets are lined up right! I would think the .25-.284 would do very well also although I don't have any experience with it.

Good luck with your project

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Originally posted by Henry Hoover:
I had a 284 built on a rem 700 short action a few years ago but never could seat heavier bullets as far out as I wanted.
I would like to build something else on the 284 case. 25 or 6.5? Has anyone had experience with this case using a standard length action?Were there any feeding problems etc. Thanks

I built a 284 Win on a Rem 700 did not like it with the 2.8 " mag length. Had to be very specific on the types off bullets, ones with short ogive. If ZI did it again would be on the Win or Ruger SA with a mag length of around
3"or over. Mine fed great and with a smaller caliber bullet selction woul not be a problem.
My Win 88 in 284 had a longer mag length than the Rem 700 SA. Factory 284 bullets were short for length.

Henry,

I did some new load development for my friend's .25-284 (FN action, Douglas 26.5" barrel) just this weekend.

His gun does seem to have a "fast" barrel, and these loads are safe ONLY in this particular gun:

75 grain Sierra HP, 60 grains H-4831, WW-WLR, 3775 FPS (OAL, not recorded)

85 grain Sierra Bal. Tip, 58.5 gr. IMR 7828 SSC, WW-WLR, 3540 FPS (OAL, 2.91")

117 grain Sierra BT, 52 gr H4831, primer unknown, 3220 fps (this load seems to run a tad on the hot side. It is some very old stock he reloaded many years ago. I would recommend starting at least a couple of grains short of this.)

CAUTION: Non-standard chamber; wildcat round; pressures estimated only by primer pocket expansion; reduce for use in other guns.

My 6.5x284 is on an 1903A3 action.
Feeds fine
Shoots excelent groups

My 6/284 is built on a Rem 700 standard (long) action for that very reason. Works great, no problems feeding.

If only the 284 case was available in 64mm (ie 30-06 length) a non belted standard face magnum

I have a 284 Winchester in a bolt action rifle.
The barrel is throated such that bullets can be seated within .010 off the lands, and still feed thru the magazine. Any and all bullets work; but I really like the light weight bullets, and the high velocity I get with 120 grain bullets. So, that's what I'm shooting in it now.
YMMV,

Don

Remington 700 short, 3.150 internal.

I reformed a Remington 06 box so the internal
dimension is 3.150
Then remachined the magwell at the back to accept the new box.

milled the bolt stop back so the bolt would pick up the next round.

It's a 284 Win. in a rem 700 S/A with lots of seating room.
works good
Timan

Thanks to everyone for the info. It is appreciated more than you know

I built my 284 on a Rem 600 short action. I modified the magazine box and receiver to allow 3.1" col. One of my best sheep rifles. Feeding is fussy with some bullets. I also have a 6mm-284 built on a 788 rifle. Due to the inline magazine (which have to be modified to feed) that one feeds well. FWIW - dan

I would always opt to use a cartridge for its intended action. The 284 was made for a short action and contrary to most popular beliefs, even the heaviest of bullets will not infringe upon powder space enough to really hurt a short cartridge. My 7mm SAUM is proof of this, just look in any newer reloading manuals and compare velocities between a short and long cartridge. There is no proof to substantiate this popular belief.

With that said, the .284 win is making a come back among long range bench rest shooters, check out www.6mmbr.com and go to the .284 section, a good case(no pun intended) is made for shooting it long range. The 6.5-284 has turned out to be a barrel burner, now at heart im a 6.5mm man and i love my 6.5X55 but facts are facts.

Keep that 284 in a short action if you want a 6.5mm in a long action check out the 6.5-280AI it gets close to the .264 win mag and is a really different wild cat.

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Originally posted by Henry Hoover:
I had a 284 built on a rem 700 short action a few years ago but never could seat heavier bullets as far out as I wanted.
I would like to build something else on the 284 case. 25 or 6.5? Has anyone had experience with this case using a standard length action?Were there any feeding problems etc. Thanks

I have a 6mm on the 284 case. It is superb!