I´m going for a big red Stag this rut and planing to load my Sako Finbear in .300 H&H with the 200grs Nosler Part. Or is perhaps the 180grs the better choice? I´m loading the 200grs Part. with 68,0grs R 905 (nearly identical to Reloader 22).

Either one will work just fine. The stag will never know the difference of 20 grains of bullet weight.

TT

What a wonderful caliber. Simply classic. I'd use the 200 just because it's a .300 H&H.

Use whichever you want, or whatever shoots better. Stags aren't that big.

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Use whichever you want, or whatever shoots better. Stags aren't that big.

This.
You could go down to 150 in a pinch but 165 and up would be my choice. Stags aren't as big as elk IME.

On the off chance something gets up and runs straight away from you, the 200s work really well!

IME, the 180 NP and the 200 NP are nearly the same in almost every aspect. The 200, of course, has a bit more uumphf. Both shoot to the same POA/POI at 100 and out to 200 the groups are almost overlapped.

I run both in my M70 300 HH, I get `2880 with the 200s and 2920 with the 180s in a less than max charge of H4350. Both pole axe whitetails like they were hit by lightning.

I am certain that they will work wonderfully on just about any big game, excepting the big 5 or so!

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Originally posted by Blacktailer:

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Originally posted by Dogleg:
Use whichever you want, or whatever shoots better. Stags aren't that big.

This.
You could go down to 150 in a pinch but 165 and up would be my choice. Stags aren't as big as elk IME.

Yes, the european red stags are not as big as an elk, but much bigger than the stags from scotland (nearly double size)!

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
What a wonderful caliber. Simply classic. I'd use the 200 just because it's a .300 H&H.

Thats my opinion, too!

200 because it is more classic and the 180 will work nicely too.

Normally I have used the 200 gr. NP in all my different .300 Mags, but that was because they both gave almost identical accuracy and I didn't feel the extra weight was a negative attribute, but could sometimes be a positive one.

In your case IF one was 20% or more accurate than the other, that's what I'd use. If there's no marked difference in accuracy, use whichever one you feel best about or have access to the most easily.

I can tell you from experience that both bullets kill American elk and Canadian moose very well, even from a .30-06.

I'm assuming because of your location the range is not likely to be overly long when shooting your red stag but out here those that use any of the 300 magnums seem to choose the 165gr bullet weight which reaches out well. The 180gr has been the go to bullet weight for years but the 165gr has taken over this spot now.

I have hunted several times south of Berlin and used 180grain with a 300 Win mag. Imo, its too much gun for the smaller Schalenwild (hoofed game) especially for the roe deer and fallow deer (Dammwild) but everything was DRT.

I prefer a 7x65R and 160-175 grain and less velocity. The "Verwertung" is better.

It is right, that the .300Mags are too much for roe deer and perhaps fallow deer, but the red stags are another class and the .300Mags or the powerfull 8mms or the 9,3 are the first choice!

I have heard all the arguments for 180s and 200s, but all of the hunters that used either of them seem more than satisfied. And that includes some very experienced hunters.

I have had wonderful success using 200gen Partitions in my M70 .300H&H.