Need y'alls opinions and info on scope problem!

My K2.5 broke due to recoil this weekend. Had it on my 9.3x62 Mauser. When to Weaver's web site for possible warranty repair/replacement. There was no written warranty - Just instructions to call (800) 285-0689 and get a return authoriztion number.

So I called today. Waited 35 mins to get a Customer Service Repsentative. He said that The USA made Weaver scopes had only a 1 year warranty but the foriegn made Weaver scopes had a lifetime warranty. There was nohting on the scope saying where it was made - Just Weaver's name and a U.S. patent number. CSR said it was a USA made scope and was no longer in warranty.

Questions: Is this guy telling me straight about the warranty and did he indeed judge the scope correctly to be made in USA??

what "broke".
how much do you want for it?

One of the reasons I no longer purchase them !.

I have a K6 put it on .375 H&H 3 d shot broke !.
Sent it into them they wanted 65 % of the new price for a replacement scope or they would fix mine for shipping and handling . Fix mine . It broke after the 5 th. shot second time around !.
It's history now .

Good luck . Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ...

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Originally posted by RaySendero:
Need y'alls opinions and info on scope problem!

My K2.5 broke due to recoil this weekend. Had it on my 9.3x62 Mauser. When to Weaver's web site for possible warranty repair/replacement. There was no written warranty - Just instructions to call (800) 285-0689 and get a return authoriztion number.

So I called today. Waited 35 mins to get a Customer Service Repsentative. He said that The USA made Weaver scopes had only a 1 year warranty but the foriegn made Weaver scopes had a lifetime warranty. There was nohting on the scope saying where it was made - Just Weaver's name and a U.S. patent number. CSR said it was a USA made scope and was no longer in warranty.

Questions: Is this guy telling me straight about the warranty and did he indeed judge the scope correctly to be made in USA??

The current Weaver company isn't even related to the old one from ElPaso.....the new Weavers are Japanese and under the Meade Banner.

The old "K Series" of scope hasn't been made for twenty years or more.....If the warranty was 1 year...it's out of warranty for sure.

If someone offered to buy it, I'd sell it and get a Leupold.

I still have a K-6 and two K4-12 steel scopes that are working fine after about thirty years!

When the alloy tubed K2.5 came out I mounted one on a 458WM ... broke 3 in a row. The surround that holds the reticle cracks. I've now got two Leupold 2.5x scopes ... no hint of a problem and I've had them on some pretty abusive calibres
Cheers...
Con

When Bill Weaver and Dick Shaw passed on Weaver went to hell in a handbasket..They never were a great big bore scope IMO, and they sure weren't good cold weather scopes.

I used them all my young life in Texas, but moved on to Leupolds long ago and that is where I have stayed for many many years.

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Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
what "broke".
how much do you want for it?

KS,

Something came loose inside. It rattles - You can see it thru the rear lense.

Ray,
Good Luck and you will need a lot of it. Go to reloading and look at my post about the worst customer service in the country.

I have a new 4 x 16 Weaver Target dot scope that was mounted on a 223, using my 13.5 grains of Blue Dot, so it recoils like a 22 Hornet or so...
well after 600 rounds, the reticle went south, on a new scope.. ( in less than 6 weeks)...

This scope was a replacement.. that I had to wait over a year for...

All I can tell you, is dealing with Meade Instruments is a nightmare....

As long as Meade is going to own Weaver or Simmons.. If I have one break, it will go in the trashcan, and I will just purchase a Leupold or a Nikon, or B & L/Bushnell to replace it...

Even a good Weaver scope, is now backed by the worst customer service in the business....Meade....

Hey Ray, I've got two old Weavers and they both have USA stamped on the tube at the Turret.

One is a 3-9x and was made around 1970. The Second line of print is 1-2 points smaller and fits squarely under WEAVER.

WEAVER
V9-A USA

The other one is a K3 and is from the 1960s. The second line is the same size as WEAVER. The third line is maybe 2-3 points smaller.

WEAVER
K3-C3
USA

There used to be a guy who advertised in the back of Handloader and Rifle] that repaired old scopes. I'm pretty sure it was "Parson's Scope Service" or "Parson's Scope Repair". His first name might be Phil and he might be in Ohio. If anyone knows, please correct where ever my memory is wrong.

I called him one time before Answering Machines and left a message with someone. He called me back and we talked for a fairly long time. It may have been that I wanted a HEAVY Reticle back then for the 3-9x Weaver, but I really just don't remember. Anyway, whatever it was, he told me it wasn't available back then.

Nice guy who may no longer be in business. But if he is, he might be able to repair that old Weaver for you.

Best of luck to you.

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here used to be a guy who advertised in the back of Handloader and Rifle] that repaired old scopes. I'm pretty sure it was "Parson's Scope Service" or "Parson's Scope Repair". His first name might be Phil and he might be in Ohio. If anyone knows, please correct where ever my memory is wrong.

The guy that repairs old WQeaver steel scopes lives in El Paso.....maybe I can find his name etc

I looked at the Weaver line and they still sell a K-4 and a K-6 but these are not remotely the same as the old steel tubes.....my previous post was made without this knowlege.....I assumed the problem occurred with one of the old "K" model scopes.

Criminy....mine has been on the .375 H&H for many years and didn't suffer any hiccups at all.....apparantly the Meade versions are not the real stuff!

Here is a link to the folks that repair the original US made Weaver scopes. They have nothing to do with the recent Japanese made stuff.

http://www.weaver-scope-repair.com/

Parsons Scope Repair is the outfit that does the repairs on Unertl scopes. I think the guy you are looking for is Bill Ackerman. He no longer lives in El Paso, but in a New Mexico suburb of El Paso. He used to be the chief optical engineer for Bill Weaver, I believe, and when the El Paso operation of Weaver closed down, he bought the parts and specialized in the repair of the OLD original Weavers. As I understand it, he does nothing on the new ones. I'm amazed your old one broke...those are built like Russian tanks...not very sophisticated, but quadruple tough and simple. I've sold many of the old K 2-1/2 and K-3s into Canada for use on bigbore Bear guns and to my knowledge, none of them has broken after years of service on real "kaboomers". I am still also using a half dozen or so of them myself on similar rifles, with full satisfaction as far as strength. It is true the old ones may need to be re-sealed, but that is a different story...

I know Mr. Ruiz is NOT the person who repaired and/or boosted my original Weaver scopes all through the 1990s and early 2000's.

It was Bill Ackerman, dba Optical Services Company, P.O. Box 1174, Santa Teresa, New Mexico 85005, (505) 589-3833. It is possible he has retired or died since I last did business with him a few years ago, but he definitely was doing the repair and/or boosting of my original Weaver scopes long after 1984.

Edited to add:

I just checked in the 2000, 2003, 2005, & 2006 Gun Digests and Optical Services Company was still listed on pages 534, 551, 553, and 551, respectively, yet in searching through Google, I can't find it at all. Anyone know what's up?

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Hot Core, KurtC,

Thanks guys - I'm going to talk to Weaver in El Paso, TX. Think they will shoot straight on whether or not this is a USA scope!

If it is a US, I'll see how much they want to repair it.

If not US made, I'm going to give Meade hell til they replace it!!!!

unscrew it, pull out what rattles.

If it was made in the US it should have El Paso, Tex. USA stamped on top of the tube.

I have had 2 US made Weaver scopes repared by the people in Texas & they did a really good job.

I have had contact with the new Weaver's "Customer Service" & only have 1 thing to say--outsource it to India they can speak English which is more that the black girl in south georgia could do.

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Originally posted by KSTEPHENS:
unscrew it, pull out what rattles.

KS,

One of the recticle wires is broken and the inside lens in the bell is broken.

Sent e-mail to Weaver Scope Repair Service located in El Paso, TX today.

I have also had two weaver scopes. The first one (an fixed 2.5) I bought many years ago and it has been on my Marlin 30-30 ever since. Ths second one (a fixed 4X) I bought within the last year and it is mounted on my CZ 550 9,3X62. Both have functioned without incident. The click adjustments don't work near as well as the click adjustments on a more expensive scope and thus, it takes a bit more time to get them sighted in. However, once sighted in, they have maintained their settings. One thing I do notice about the Weavers... I am amazed at the brightness and clarity of the optics for such a low price. I think they work fine but then again, I wouldn't put one on a rifle with really serious recoil and, if I was heading off to Africa, I would put on a Burris or a Leupold.

Dave

On "regular" rifles, I've had no problems with the old steel-tube, El Paso-made Weavers. I just looked at a couple of mine, and they are marked "W.R. Weaver, El Paso TX on the tube just in front of the eyepiece. The old "B" model K scopes made in El Paso were well-engineered, and generally well-made. One of the main ways they kept costs down was in the area of in-process and final product inspection, which is a labor-intensive source of additional production costs. So when you bought a Weaver in those days, it might be super, or it might be mediocre. It was a crap shoot! I've used the "b" models on .22's, and the J-2.5 and J-4 modles on both .22's and lightweight sporters like a Swedish Mauser sporter in 6.5X55mm. Those "J", 3/4" tube scopes were cool!

I did have one go haywire from shooting it on a Rger No. 1 .45/70 with heavy 400-grain loads- recoil 58 ft/lb, 7.5-pound gun. The ONLY scope make that has stood up on this rifle is Leupold. I tried Bushnell, Weaver, Bausch & Lomb, and Leupold on it.

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(505) 589-3833

Using reverse phone lookup, I see that this number is STILL LISTED for the Optical Services outfit......

I wonder if the TK Lee Company in Alabama could do anything with it...

they do reticle changes on Weavers...

just a thought...

try this out... the lower guy seems to be a potential point of repair...

http://scopedot.com/id6.html