Well,
Not really bad I supose but its kind of funny, I took my new 30,06 with me on the way to my frends house yesteday cause he lives near a place where I shoot. I just wanted to shoot up a few rounds that I had in a box and I wanted to get the brass back.
These loads were done for my other 06 so I took the little note book like the oneI have for each of my rifles , so I could figure out what the load was. I rested the rifle on the hood of my truck , and put 3 rounds into .55 inches at 96 yards. Great for a 50 year old featherweight rifle, So I started looking in the book to find the load. The good thing is its a 150 grain partition, but the bad thing is
The powder could be 64 grains of RL-22 60 grs of H-414 or 52 grains of IMR 4064. So I guess I will just have to load up half a dozen rounds with each powder to figure it out.
Also I had only 2 rounds of a 168 grain barnes tripple shock, over 51.5 grs of IMR-4064
. Now two shots don't mean a whole lot but it can't be bad when the 2 go into .45, at 96 yards.
Anyway, a load with a 150 grain partition that prints close to .5 moa is as good a load as an 06 shooter will need for anything up through caribu, and if the barnes load proves itself it would be hard to beat that for elk in an 06. i am falling in love with this rifle, its a 1955 model 70 Featherweight in 30,06 and its in about 90% condition, I can,t belive I got for 550.00...tj3006

Thats a great group .5"

I don't see how you can get 64 grains of RL 22 into a 30-06 case. In every case I've ever used 62.5-63 grains would run over the top of the case.

Geronimo

geronomo,
I took the info out of my note book, so i couldnt snswewr your question right away, wanting to make sure i was not puting out false information I poured some RL-22 ito the powder thrower and weighed up 64 graines. I poured it from my scale pan through a funnel into the .30,06 case. It fit with a little room to spare in both a Remington and a federal case.
My standard charging procedure is to go from the thrower into a case, pour into the scale pan
then after making sure the charge weight is perfect as my 10/10 scale can get it, I use the funnel to pour from the pan into the case. (its faster than it sounds) I know some people trust there powder througher more than I do and only weigh every 5th round or so. I weigh every charge and I think what makes it fill the case more compleatly is the slow pour through the funnel...tj3006

Sounds like you like that rifle just a little!

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when is a great group a bad thing ?

answer.....when you buy a rifle for the action and it shoots too darn good to take it apart.....as I did with a J C Higgens .30-06 on an FN action.....and yes...I bought it from the guy that posted just ahead of me on this thread...

I do not know how 64 grains of RE22 would not exceed pressures for a 150 grain bullet in your 06, but in my Ackley 280, it would be WAY UP THERE in pressure. I backed off of 63 grain loads, with 140 grain bullets, because of loose primer pockets, etc. and I am not sure that the case capacity of an 06 is much different from its derivative 280 case?

I don't think there is much room left to seat a bullet over 64gr/RL22. I have loaded 61gr under a 180gr bullet & pressures are fine, I think if you could get 64gr in under a 150gr bullet pressure would be ok, at least in my rifle.
http://recipes.alliantpowder.com/rg.taf?_function=cente...0150%20Sp%2E%20Pt%2E

I manage 62gr MRP (RL22 in a different package) under a 165gr ballistic tip (long bullet) compressed but not overly so.

It also give accuracy that makes the rifle bought to tear down for an action a life long keeper!

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when is a great group a bad thing ?

Sorry but the first thing that ran through my mind was "when it's your wife and girlfriend in the same car?"

My newly re-barrelled '06 is very accurate with 61.0 grains RL 22 and 165 grain Speer Hot Core bullets. I'm going to try it with Partitions next.

I'd say the only time a great group is a bad thing is when you shoot it in a buddies rifle, or he shoots it in your rifle. Never fun have your gun shoot better than you can in someone elses hands.

I'd also say the other time a great group is a bad thing is when it is signifigantly better than the average groups a rifle produces. No fun to shoot that 1/2" group but have all other groups from the gun in the 1 to 1 1/2" range.

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Originally posted by Mark:

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when is a great group a bad thing ?

Sorry but the first thing that ran through my mind was "when it's your wife and girlfriend in the same car?"

Unless you have a very open-minded wife.

hey now, I like the way Frank thinks!

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when is a great group a bad thing ?

When the NRA instructor says so!

I attended their personal protection course. After many hours of lectures we headed to the range. He showed us how it was to be done, how many shots at which targets, when to reload, when to switch to using your weak hand, etc. Then he gave a demonstration and set his target up as the benchmark. After I shot the course and pulled my target I was so proud that my group was tighter than his and expected congratulations. Nope, wrong answer. He said I put too many shots into the same area that I didn't create enough needed tissue damage. I was of course stunned. So sometimes a really great group IS a bad thing.

Acordidng to the data on the aliant web page,
63.00 grains of RL-22, and a 150 grain hornady reaches preasure of 46000 PSI witch is prety darn low. They give a velocity of only 2815 witch ain't bad but i would hope for 2900 or so. would not mean much deer hunting, but for antilope I would like to be as flat as I can. Think I will buy some 150 grain T-shocks and or accubonds...tj3006

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:

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when is a great group a bad thing ?

When the NRA instructor says so!

I attended their personal protection course. After many hours of lectures we headed to the range. He showed us how it was to be done, how many shots at which targets, when to reload, when to switch to using your weak hand, etc. Then he gave a demonstration and set his target up as the benchmark. After I shot the course and pulled my target I was so proud that my group was tighter than his and expected congratulations. Nope, wrong answer. He said I put too many shots into the same area that I didn't create enough needed tissue damage. I was of course stunned. So sometimes a really great group IS a bad thing.

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As if the target would remain motionless while you punched him several times. What a dork to make the comment about needing a greater spread to create tissue damage. In a real life situation i doubt there would be any problem creating the "desired" spread. Add the excitement of the situation and the groups will be plenty wide enough.