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Re: Nosler Solid base bullet question

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07 October 2004, 03:47
RSY
Re: Nosler Solid base bullet question
Paul:

Here's something for your edification: http://www.benchrest.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-9589.html

I hope it'll explain my statement, somewhat. If you have the newest Nosler manual (No. 5), you can see some Zipedos on the back cover. You'll see that, unlike the Solid Base/BallTip design, the Zipedos were flat-based and not boattails. Also, they were sub-caliber and had a series of grooves and bands to engage the rifling.

RSY
07 October 2004, 02:16
<eldeguello>
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So, they are basically a cup and core bullet? The Nosler website didn't list them, must be something special just for Federal.

Well, they are "cup and core", but NOT TYPICAL ones. They have a heavy, solid base and the base of the core is not boattail shaped, so they are not prone to separation in the same way other cup & core boattail bullets are. In addition, the core cavity has heavily tapering walls which support the mushroom and limit its expansion, so they are definitely controlled-expansion bullets despite not having a bonded core. I tried the120-grain 7mm ones on small Central Texas whitretails, and found them to be too destructive - from a 7X57mm at 3100 FPS. Went back to 140-grain bullets in this application.
04 October 2004, 15:58
olarmy
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So, they are basically a cup and core bullet?




Yes. And they, at least the old ones, worked very well on deer. In fact I recall Nosler advertising them as "the perfect deer bullet". I used them in 243, 257, 264, 270 and 280. I, too, was disappointed when Nosler discontinued them.

WRT terminal ballistics, I'd rate them very close to Speer Hot Cores and Hornady Interlocks.
09 October 2004, 07:48
Fritz Kraut
I really like this quotation in RSY's signature: "The real work of men was hunting meat. The invention of agriculture was a giant step in the wrong direction, leading to serfdom, cities, and empire. From a race of hunters, artists, warriors, and tamers of horses, we degraded ourselves to what we are now: clerks, functionaries, laborers, entertainers, processors of information. - Edward Abbey"

So it is.

Fritz
09 October 2004, 08:17
Reloader
RSY and Rooster,

Ya'll were right they definitely have the solid base too. I could have sworn they didn't but, oh well, we're all wrong now and then.

Good Luck!

Reloader
09 October 2004, 07:28
RSY
Oh, really???

http://www.nosler.com/balltipvarmint.html

RSY
09 October 2004, 08:22
RSY
Reloader:

Maybe you were thinking of their match bullet. It, indeed, does not have the solid base. It's enclosed, but not solid.

Have a good weekend, everyone!

RSY
04 October 2004, 21:37
Ron Fonseca
Nosler has brought the solid base back,try www.shootersproshop.com Look under factory seconds.
04 October 2004, 21:54
Idared
I too prefer the solid base over the ballistic tip most of the time. I have used an awful lot of 130 grain 270s and 150 grain 284s over the years for everything up to elk. I know several people who use to use the 180 grain 308s for elk and got by very well. If one takes a look at the cut-away on the link provided above for Nosler seconds and it is obvious why they were refered to as Solid Bases. I have scrounged and hoarded them ever since they quit making them. They still remain my bullet of choice if I am not using Partitions.