Some of you may recall the poll I did a while back testing powders for my pre 64 featherweight 30,06 and 150 grain bullets.
I started with 5 powders narrowed down to 3, and today I did a test with RL-22.
It was the most accurate off the bench but today I took a few rounds out to the woods and shot off the hood of my truck.
( The load would be a fine deer load, but The velocity was not what I had hoped. 3 rounds over the chroney avaraged 2793.
Good enough but I would like about another 100 fps. I fired 1 real good group and then just practiced off had shooting.
I think I will try IMR-4350 next.
I also went looking for a scope for my New (Well, if 1952 can be called new) FN .270. Looked at a couple leupolds nikkons a Weaver grand slam, but I think i like the Zeiss conqest.
They did not have the 3X9 in stock, but the 3.5X10 was sure a good bit of optics. I took the rifle out to my smith to have the holes drilled and tapped for the leupold 2 pc mounting bases . it will probably be awhile befor I get her back but i picked up some 140 grain Acubonds too, I think I am goona love that rifle !!! ...tj3006

I'm an acknowledged Alliant "junkie" and to be honest RL22
would not be my 1st second or third of for that matter in my top ten list oc shoices for 150gr bullets in a 30-06...

In a 270 with 150's RL22 would be my #1 choice.

RL22 really shines in the '06, but with 165 and 180gr bullets

For 150's I'd have recommended IMR4350 first.

And if you prefer an Alliant propellant for
a 30-06 for 150's? RL-19 would be the powder to use.

AllanD

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3 rounds over the chroney avaraged 2793.
Good enough but I would like about another 100 fps.

If one wanted to push the .30-06 to the same pressures as a .270 is loaded you can easily achieve another 200'/sec and 300'/sec is possible.

May I suggest either of the 4350 powders or H-414

TJ, Have you tried RE15 for the 150s? A top load 53.6grs. should put you around 3000fps. Not to mention that RE15 will probably give the best accuracy, too.

That being said, I currently use Varget with 150 BTs, and it gives better accuracy than IMR4350. Will be trying RE15 with 168 AMAXS and MKs in the spring, along with H4350. Jay

Thanks for the info guys.
1st I know RL-22 is a little slow for the 06 but is shot great groups, RL-19 did not do so well in this rifle. IMR-4350 is my tried and true 30,06 powder, but my other 06, a model 70 classic. just does'nt do well with it. It loves IMR-4064. though. I did not try varget or RL-15.
I might give them a try. I have used both in .308s although my currant .308. A pre64 fethweight again seems to prefer IMR-4064.
Anyway I am gonna try the IMR-4350 next. and If I get close to MOA and 2900 with that one I will probably stop there, and try a few other 150 grain bullets, and play with seating depth to fine tune.
Another powder on my list is H-4350.
I put together a few loads for my 270 already with H-4831, using Hornady 130 gr flat bases and sierra 140 grain BTHPs.
I will load some 130 Balistic tips and 140 grain Accubonds with , I think RL -22 for my next reloading project.
Also found a cool custom 7X57 mauser AI, I might trade my other 270, a custom pre 64, that has dissapointed me ...tj3006

Ive had outstanding results from W-760 in my 06'es. I believe it is very similar to H-414.

Ive been wanting to try some H-4831 sc with 180's but as of yet havent got around to it.

I agree that of the Alliant powders, Rlr-19 is the one I would try with 150's.

What is your bbl length?

The barrel on the 30,06 i am shooting these days is 22 inches. RL-19 is a great powder in my 7X57 with 162 grain hornady, and H-414 is great with lighter bullets in the same rifle.
The 5 powders i started with were RL-19
RL-22 IMR-4350 H-4350 and IMR- 4064. I treid them all and tossed out the RL-19 And the IMR-4064 Beacuse all the other powders shot better in this rifle. I think I treid H-414 also and tossed it. I know RL-22 is rather slow for the lighter bullets , but I got great groups with it and some 180 grain sierra bullets that I tried when I first shot the rifle.
My hope is a load that is at or near MOA and at or near 2900 FPS, then I will work on a 165
with hopes of similar accuracy and 2800FPS. The rifle is a Pre 64 featherweight with a VX3 Leupold 2.5X8. ...tj3006

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Originally posted by Thomas Jones:
The barrel on the 30,06 i am shooting these days is 22 inches. RL-19 is a great powder in my 7X57 with 162 grain hornady, and H-414 is great with lighter bullets in the same rifle.
The 5 powders i started with were RL-19
RL-22 IMR-4350 H-4350 and IMR- 4064. I treid them all and tossed out the RL-19 And the IMR-4064 Beacuse all the other powders shot better in this rifle. I think I treid H-414 also and tossed it. I know RL-22 is rather slow for the lighter bullets , but I got great groups with it and some 180 grain sierra bullets that I tried when I first shot the rifle.
My hope is a load that is at or near MOA and at or near 2900 FPS, then I will work on a 165
with hopes of similar accuracy and 2800FPS. The rifle is a Pre 64 featherweight with a VX3 Leupold 2.5X8. ...tj3006

My you have a picky barrel....

Ok... Then IMR4895, BL-C(2), H4895, Vit N150,
Or even IMR4831.

Varget is also in the right burning range.

Watch out for heavy charges of IMR4831 behind "light" bullets, it can make a rather spectacular muzzle flash, though not as big as the one from W760

AllanD

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I know RL-22 is rather slow for the lighter bullets , but I got great groups with it and some 180 grain sierra bullets that I tried when I first shot the rifle.
My hope is a load that is at or near MOA and at or near 2900 FPS, then I will work on a 165
with hopes of similar accuracy and 2800FPS. The rifle is a Pre 64 featherweight with a VX3 Leupold 2.5X8. ...tj3006

Thomas, consider some 165 gr bullets with Reloder 22 at maximum load levels. I had very good results with my old 30-06 with velocities that approached the max 150 gr loads with other powders. Almost 2800 fps out of my 20" barrel with the 165's. And yes, it did a good job with the 180's as well.

When i find the best 150 grain load , i will turn to 165s. And RL-22 will lilit be the 1at powder i use.
With 165s I sort of want to find 2 loads. A standard style bullet mabye a Sierra , or a Hornady, and then for Elk i hope I canget a 1658 gr T-shock to about 2800 and close to moa as a versital elk load.
I might work up a 180 grain load but when I want real power I hve better cartridges...tj3006

150 gr - IMR4350
165 gr - IMR4831
180 gr - RL19
200 gr - RL22

I like the heavier bullets in 30-06 because of the higher ballistic coefficient, sectional density, wind fighting ability and downrange performance. Trajectory is just a matter of aiming a little higher. JMHO