I was wondering what everyones opionion here at A/R is of the barrel cleaning product knownn as "Whipe Out Brushless Bore Cleaner". My opoligies if this question has been previously asked, but I did several surches and came up with zero responces.

I bought some after readig quite a few post over at Hunt America that gave it great reviews. I however have had results that were less than I had hoped for.

I used W/O in two of my rifles, one that foules badly and requiers about 25% more cleaning than the other rifle I used W/O on. The other of the two, a M700 in .338wm, always cleaned up rather easly using a my normal cleaning procedure of first using Big Eds Red to remove any loose easy to to remove fouling, fallowed by Birchwood Caseys 2in1 bore scrubber to remove all remaining powder fouling and some copper fouling, then lastly I use CR-10 to remove nearly all of the copper fouling left in the barrel. I always clean the barrel with action cleaner to remove any of the chemicals left over from the previously used bore cleaner. I also never use phosforus-bronz brushes anymore.

I used Wipe out EXACTLY as described in the directions that came with it. The first time I used it in two of my rifles I filled the barrels untill it was running out of both the muzzle and the bore guide, and let it sit over night. I also made sure the barrels were level. It didn't remove all the copper fouling out of my rifles even after three over night soakings with several two hour in-between soakings and cleanings. It did however, finally get my rifles clean, but after ALOT more soaking, cleaning then soaking and cleaning than I was lead to expect. And yes, I did use Wipe Out for the first time in what I beleaved to be a throughly clean bore.

So I would like the input from people out there who have had alot of experience using Wipe Out on their rifles and what you think about my experience?

I shot only hand loads out of both rifles one a 7mm STW, the other a 338wm, using only Hornady Interloks, and Nosler Partitions, and B/Ts. None of the loads I shot were compressed or overly hot. I NEVER, NEVER, EVER allowed the barrels to become hot to the touch on either rifles at any time for that matter.

Thanks, Art.

[ 11-03-2003, 02:34: Message edited by: ART338 ]

I've used it and I think it sucks. I saves NO time over conventional cleaning methods, for the reasons you have already explained.

It comes pretty close to my definition of fraud.

Art I did use wipe out exactly as per instructions & it did not work. I found you had to let it work overnight or at least a couple of hours, not the 15 minutes on the instructions. I am surprised it did not work for you on overnight soakings. Or you can say it did work because if you've cleaned that rifle with CR10 before & you are still getting copper out with Wipe Out after 3 goes, then Wipe Out gets the copper out better than CR 10 (which is supposed to be damned good for getting copper out).

I have checked my cleaning by using Sweets 7.62 after & got no more copper out. So I think its great for removing copper & its supposed to be gentler than Sweets. Fast - certainly it is not.

I also find it pretty useless for removing carbon deposits. So my procedure now is to swab with 2 patches soaked in Hoppes no.9. Swab with a dry patch then treat with Wipe Out. For me just once is enough as I have used Wipe Out a couple of times now.

Seems to work for me.

First...let me say I sell Wipe Out.
Second...I only became a dealer after trying it out first.
I had a Sako 222 Mag that I thought I kept clean.
I tried Wipe Out and found that I evidently did not keep it clean.
I too find that it may in fact take overnight to get the stuff to work well but work (for me) it does.
I have tried it on a number of different firearms and it has always worked but again I don't think it works as fast as the directions say.

[ 11-03-2003, 19:12: Message edited by: Harry ]

You guys notice, that Shooters Choice has came out with a brushless cream spray like Wipe Out. Boy, somebody comes up with a good idea, and everybody copies it.

Wipe-out is the best thing since disposable diapers.

That said, it is not perfect. It takes time -- but not YOUR time.

I have a Savage in 7mm mag that has a copper mine in the barrel after any amount of shooting. It takes 2 hrs with CR-10 or Butches to make a dent in it. Wipe-out takes care of it with one squirt: Squirt, walk away, patch out the next day. If I give it another 24 hours it may, or may not, have a little blue left.

AFTER wipe-out, neither CR-10, nor Butches come up with any kind of significant blue. The other way around, however, oh, my!

I, too, think it doesn't dissolve carbon well. However, it softens it up enough that a nylon brush is able to get it out, easily.

If you needed three soakings of Wipe-out AFTER CR-10, boy, you have a "gem" of a barrel! JMO, Dutch.

I just did a search (all forums) on "wipe out" and got 251 hits. Granted some (unfortuantely) related to game being wiped out, but most referred to the cleaning product.

Some (most?) love it. Some hate it. I happen to love it. It does not save time. I let it sit an hour, then push a couple of patches through. Sometimes I apply it a second time. If I wanted to scrub like the dickens with some CR10, I could get the job done faster, but with a lot more elbow grease.

I am lazy , and I like the idea that I am not scrubbing the heck out of my bores. I don't mind the time elapse when I am puttering around after a shooting session.

I do get a very clean bore without a lot of work. To each his own.

I have used it, leaving it overnight, and then followed up with Sweets 7.62. There was no copper being removed y the Sweets, in my experience. However, there was quite a big of black fouling left to be removed by Hoppes, IOSSO or other cleaners. So I think Wipeout does a good job on copper, but not on powder fouling.

I have had pretty much he same experience as Calif Hunter. Starting with a clean bore, if I put 50 rounds through the rifle, I can usually remove all the copper with one overnight soaking -- or sometimes, two overnight soakings. I find Wipe-out very effective if left in for a few hours; and it does not require much labor on my part at all. It is not as effective at removing powder residue; and I do have to put patches through with another product to get out the powder. However, I am not as worried about the powder residue; because powder is a lot easier to remove than copper.

I love Wipe-Out, it has made my life much simpler...I don't leave anything in my bores overnight, rather 2 hours wipe it dry and perhaps another 2 hours wipe it dry and oil profusly...

If I have a really old rifle with black horrible bore then I will let it stand overnight and may repeat as often as necessary to get the bore half way decent...

When I had Shilen rebarrel my Wby in 338/378, Shilen recommended Wipe-Out! to me. They tested a bunch of different bore cleaners and said that there were other cleaners that worked, but they were corrosive and toxic and Wipe-Out! is neither. Anyway, they gave me a can at the time and I haven't looked back. I love it, and it works great for me on all of my guns. When possible, I do leave it in the barrel overnight, that helps a bunch.

Regards,
Tom

W/O does take longer to work, but you are free to watch TV, mow the lawn, eat dinner, sleep, etc while it is working for you. It simply replaces you pushing and pulling a rod. And it is much more friendly to your bore.

Run Hoppes #9 through on a patch, scrub with brush, patch out, repeat twice, fill with W/O, let stand, patch out and you've done 90-100% of your work with about 12 strokes. Repeat the W/O soak/patch if there's still some copper.

I use Wipe Out strictly as a copper cleaner. I still use Shooters Choice first to get the powder fouling out.

I have ruined barrels by cleaning. Anymore I use wipe out and a bore snake. No corrosion, no cleaning rod to damage the bore. No Complaint.

Most folks probably already do this but my opinion of Wipe Out changed when I went to using a 1 ft. piece of surgical tubing (1/4 I think, the size that fits over the nozzle)to apply the cleaner. In most of my rifles, just insert the tubing into the chamber until it forms a seal and squirt until foam comes out the bore. No mess that way on the receiver end or on stock. leave the tube in for 10 min. or so until the foam stops expanding. I too clean first with Hoppes and a nylon brush and then leave the Wipe out in over night. The foam tends to retract from the crown (and I assume chamber) and inch or so and may leave more copper there which may account for the trace of blue on the second cleaning. Overall it works well and seems less hard on barrels though I can't prove it.

Thanks to all who took the time out to give me their opinion on Wipe Out.

I agree with all who said it will clean your barell with all most no effort on your part, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't my fault that it takes so long to do so.

I will continue to use Wipe out as my at home long term bore cleaner, but it is of no practicle use at the range for cleaning your bore once fouling starts to impact your accuracy. Unlees of cource some one out there knows of or has developed a cleaning procedure using Wipe Out that will work after less than a two hour soaking. If anyone has, please by all means share it with the rest of us.

Once again, greatest of thanks to all who posted their experience with Wipe Out and for the time it took to do so.

Regards, Arthur.

I am currently using Sweet's 7.62 to remove copper. Is Wipe out easier on the bore than Sweet's. From reading the Sweet's bottle I get the definate impression that if it is left in the barrell too long it can cause problems.

If you follow the directions, Sweet's works great. Just do not leave it in longer than 10 or 15 minutes. From the standpoint of being able to leave it in longer, Wipeout may be "easier" on the bore. But if used as directed, I don't think Sweet's is harmful, either. Just always make sure you get it all out, and use an oil or another non-ammonia cleaner after the Sweet's.

PUT ME DOWN AS A LOVER OF WIPEOUT--it works as good as I can expect. I would think anything more aggressive would be HARD ON THE BARREL!!!
I to love to squirt and walk away---plunge out the crap tommorrow. Sometimes what comes out the next day looks like a blue ink pen exploded in the barrel overnight! It definately works best on smooth barrels but evetually gets the job done on the rough ones too. It's got to be better on barrels than a whole bunch of scrubbing.

I use, sell, and endorse Wipe Out. I like the gun that cleans itself on its own time.

Aleko

I LOVE Wipe-Out! I use it for everything from .17 rem to 416 Rigby. The "wait 15 minutes" stuff is BS, but that's okay. Spray the wipe out in and walk away. Let it do the work and not you. I have scrubbed my barrels w/ CR10, etc way too much to not appreciate a copper cleaner that does the work and you can just patch out.

John

I use a Marvel Mystery Oil patch for carbon, two dry and then Wipeout, can't be beat!