....not sure where to put this, but.....can someone tell me what this rifle is?? the rest of the pic has him standing on top of his horse and saddle with coyote or wolf pelts.....my thoughts were maybe a Burgess pump rifle ??



Roger

Looks like it could be some variation on a Winchester M-94. This is based on the look of the action and the rifle cartridges on his belt.

I think it is a Winchester 94. Poor photo, looks like the lever is "washed out" in the photo, probably due to it being a copy of an old photo and no printed from negative. Also, the shells in his cartridge belt looklikr 30-30 shells.

Sagebrush....looks like we were typing replies at the same time!

Winchester model 94 or maybe a model 55. I can't remember if the 55's had a pistol grip stock without looking.

M94's of the time came with endless options of grips, magazines, barrel lengths & styles, etc. Most folks today think of a model 94 As a 20 inch barrel carbine but that ignores a lot of what was really out there.

The one in the picture has a saddlering with the ring removed so I'm guessing it's a m94 carbine, button magazine, 20 inch round barrel with dovetailed front sight with the unusual for a carbine pistol grip stock with a shotgun style butt plate.

In today's market that would be a very desirable gun to own because of all its options.

I agree that if you magnify the picture you can make out a ghost of the rest of the lever. Perhaps a 92' or '94 Trapper model. The pistol grip stock was an option on both. I would agree the cartridges appear to be .30 WCF or perhaps .32 Winchester Special depending on when this photo was taken. The .32 Winchester Special wasn't introduced until 1901.

Has the rear slope of the 94 action (where the hammer sits) changed over the years? Comparing it with my 375 'Big Bore', the slope in that pic looks too square.

My first thought on that invisible finger lever was that the photo may have originally been taken indoors against a pale background, then deep-etched, double exposed somehow or pasted over the streetscape later. Careless deep-etchers or people cutting around outlines often washed out or cut stuff off or, in gun pics, failed to cut inside trigger guards. I can't see the complete lever, even as a ghost, but someone might have a better screen than mine.

The complete lever is there. But your right the photo may have been retouched, it's pretty faint.


The top tang is also correct. I looked at my Winchester 94 book and the rear stock is right also. The pistol grip stock kind of makes the tang slope "appear" to be different. The photo also I think makes it look more so.

back then you could order a Win just like you wanted it. It is definatly a "Deluxe model" 94, probably in a 38-55 judging by his cartridge belt, but could be a 25-35, 30-30 or 32-40, maybe a little early to be a 32 special Im thinking...

I can see the lever stubs on the trigger guard which tell me the lever just didn't show up at the broadside angle due t poor light or camera failure.