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For those of you who have used this bullet in the 7x57 or 7mm08,.280- Do they seem to open "similar" to round nose or more like spitzers? I'm still curious how they would do on mule deer in my 7x57? Thanks. If I have asked this before/it got answered, please forgive me. I've slept since then Smiler
 
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Quite the efficient little round. I load the 175gr SBT Sierra GameKing at just under 2600 fps muzzle speed in my 7x57. Goes clear through broadside on Deer.

 
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The Woodleigh PP in any caliber is an awesome bullet, always has been, and its better now..Its as good as all the so claimed best..and the RN Woodleigh are excellent as well but tend to be a bit softer and quicker to expand and by design I might add....I like Woodleighs. BTW a 130 or 140 gr. bullet will penetrate a deer broadside most every time and a 150 or 160 will usually pass thru and elk broadside..The 7mms do penetrate as a rule, and depending on bullet choice..

I tend to favor the 160 gr. for elk size animals. the 175s are more suitable in the black timber where the Texas heart shot is the norm, and its a deadly shot for sure, regardless of what some have challenged, all one needs is a proper bullet.


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What loads do you gents use for ( that 175 Sierra) and for (that Woodleigh 175PP)?
Do you find that either work "any better than" the Nosler 175 partition in the 7x57? Thanks guys.
 
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I follow the Woodleigh load data using Re22 with the Sierra 175gr SBT GameKing. This bullet has an impressive b.c. of 0.538.

https://www.sierrabullets.com/...4-dia-7mm-175-gr-SBT

Going to try the 175gr Nosler Accubond LR which has an even more impressive b.c. of 0.648.

https://shop.nosler.com/nosler...in-bullet-100ct.html

My 7x57 is a 20" 1:8.6" barrel Zastava LK M70 fullstock carbine.



 
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tu2Damn near the perfect rifle four the Lower 48 +. claproger beer


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I work up my own loads, as book loads for the 7x57 are beyond mild as a rule due to the number of single shots and soft steel mauser floating areound out there..A good Mauser should or rather does take the same pressures as the 270, 30-06 etc..Up to as much as 55 to 60 PSI in some cases..

I use RL-22, RL-19 and H414, and a lot depends on the magazine and throat, a 06 magazine and a matching throat, allows seating bullets way out and makes room for more powder..

I use the same loads for Nosler Accubonds, partitions, woodleighs, Sierras, Hornadys and most all bullets of .284..

Ive been shooting. loading, and hunting with the 7x57 most of my hunting life and that's a big number, not sure when I got my first 7x57 but it was a 98 milsurp Mauser, iron sighted and shoot extremely well..and my first stock refinish and reshaping..I was not quite in high school at he time best I recall..Still a favorite to this day.


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I am certainly not a Woodleigh expert but it's my understanding that the PP bullets open a little slower than the round nose bullets do.

I'm a big fan of the 7x57 with 175gr bullets, my first hunting rifle was a sporterized m93 Mauser long ago so I didn't push them hard in that particular rifle. But they do take elk pretty well.

I don't currently own a 7x57 but I may change that someday when the right one shows up.


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An absolutely brilliant bullet with which I’ve killed many immense boars and buffalo / buliki bulls.
 
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Thanks guys. I have both the Nosler/Sierras but still haven't been able to get out and shoot. I'm going to wait and see how well it shoots these before laying up some Woodleigh's.I had an identical rifle ( Mod 70 FWT) back in the 90's and it was a lemon. so far, I've "hedged my bet" and used my time off form shooting to have this one bedded, tweaked some.
 
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Absolutely nothing wrong with the Woodleigh, but at the velocities the 7x57 generates, just about any cup and core 175 grain will be perfect for mule deer.


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Yes Sir the pp,s do open a bit slower then the round nose Woodleighs and that was by design..

The round nose 350 gr. 375 and the 450 40 cal. Woodleigh was my design and/or suggestion to Geoff, He said the PP would be a better bullet, of course he was right he had been making bullets way longer than most, but he honored my request and produced both...I still like the RN, mostly nostalgia, but Ive never had one fail to kill and kill quickly of either one the RN or the PP...Geoff just makes good bullets and my favorite Buffalo bullet ended up being the 350 gr. 375 RN for bush and herd hunting, and the PP for more open country, and hunting the Dagga boys, The same worked out to the 416 and 404 with 450 gr. bullets..The 404 I only got to use in RN as I recall..Geoff gave me a number of boxes of both and I gave them a workout, still am..They worked in Africa and on Elk..My largest bull elk ever taken was with one of those Woodleigh 300 gr. 338s in the last rib and it blew a 50 cent size hole out his jaw, that was most impressive. Don't recall if it was a PP or RN..

Either way you wont be disadisfied..


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BenKK- did you use the 175 Woodleigh/7x57 on those boars/buffalo or a different caliber? I used the 310 RN in a 35 Whelen AI ( 2400fps) on a Eurasian hog ( 200# or so) at close range. It made a 40 cal entrance and a 75 cal exit, but made soup of everything in between. No meat loss at all.
 
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lee440- I hear you, I have some Hornady 175RN too. Of course, I have bullets to try from 120 upward, and I am still in the dark on how this rifle shoots. Hopefully this early spring ( if nor late winter) I'll be able to start working with this 7x57. I like bullets/loads on both ends of a rifle's spectrum, always have. I also try to get all the safe speed/with the accuracy I can from any modern rifle/caliber. Not hot loads, but certainly warm ones. Smiler
 
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Jim, I used the Swift 175 A-frame in my 280 with perfect results on African plainsgame a few years ago. If Woodleighs get hard to find, you cannot beat the Swift!


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Originally posted by Jim Knight:
BenKK- did you use the 175 Woodleigh/7x57 on those boars/buffalo or a different caliber? I used the 310 RN in a 35 Whelen AI ( 2400fps) on a Eurasian hog ( 200# or so) at close range. It made a 40 cal entrance and a 75 cal exit, but made soup of everything in between. No meat loss at all.


G’day Jim,

Yes, a Rigby .275 made in 1898. An absolutely wonderful little rifle!

Cheers,

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Benkk- thanks for the quick reply. I can only imagine how much fun that Rigby is to hunt with!

Lee- I always wondered how soft the nose is on those Aframes. I loaded some 165 AFs for my SILs .308. He takes it for a backup elk rifle. I was able to get 2750 with them and 2000MR.
 
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