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I messed up in a couple ways. I went and bought one of those El-Cheapo Rem 783's in 30-06. I put on a 3-9x50 Nikon Prostaff with BDC reticle and bought the cheapest box of factory ammo I could find which was Federal blue box 150s as I wanted to shoot it over the weekend without having to wait till we got some loads worked up. I was quite surprised after I got it zeroed as I shot a 3 shot group with 2 bullets in the same hole and the 3rd touching which was probably more shooter error than anything as I wasn't really bearing down and taking my time. I don't know how to post a picture of the group. Guess the lesson I learned is that I don't need to buy anymore of those ugly stinking cheap rifles as it shoots good but who wants to show one of those things off to their friends. However I probably should have bought a 30-06 a long time ago The scope is for sale as I personally just don't care for the BDC reticle. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | ||
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I shot one on the weekend and was pleasantly surprised. Maybe the third time will be the charm for Remington in the bargain rifle department. I wasn't a huge fan of the trigger but with some adjustment it might be better but overall, for the money it seemed to be good value. Be interesting to see how it stands up over time. | |||
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How much did you give for it? "The right to bear arms" insures your right to freedom, free speech, religion, your choice of doctors, etc. ....etc. ....etc.... -----------------------------------one trillion seconds = 31,709 years------------------- | |||
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Gave $387 for the rilfe. Was $410.22 with tax. Should make a good functional rifle. Its not pretty to look at but should get the job done. I wouldn't mind to have another 30-06 just something nicer or a little classier. Im not sure what to load for it as bullet holes were touching with plain ole federal blue box 150's. Seems it would be hard to improve on that in the accuracy department. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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Why not keep buying the Federals and just sell your brass? | |||
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Took this rifle out yesterday and this morning for the 3rd time. Shot 20 shots the first time, and about 20 or 25 yesterday forgot, then about 15 more shots this morning. Well guess what the Extractor broke off. Even cycling the bolt without a shell sometimes would cycle fine then it would be hard to cycle. Thought maybe it just had a bur or something. Then the freaking extractor broke. Guess I will call Remington the first of the week and see what they want to do with it? Lesson learned here don't buy a cheap gun even for a truck gun/beater gun. Just buy good quality to begin with. I also so remembered I use to be good at spelling. Like Winchester, CZ, Sako. You get the idea "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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, Remington got it right the first time with the M788, IMO they should've stuck with that rifle. | |||
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Remington extractors in all of their models are notorious for breaking. There's a reason as to why there is an entire Cottage Industry focused on "improving" Remingtons... USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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That's the only model Remington I've ever owned or likely will own and it's one of a very few rifles I regret selling...... | |||
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Yeah, right. I've had around 25-30 remingtons for the last 50 years and some have seen hard use. And I've never had an extractor break and I've never actually known anyone that has. It's always been some cyberspace expert that knows a guy who is related to a guy that was talking to a guy in a bar...... As you know there is also a cottage industry for replacing the Remington trigger based on cyberspace BS and frivolous law suits. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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I only own three Remington rifles but I have never had any problems with any of them. Speer, Sierra, Lyman, Hornady, Hodgdon have reliable reloading data. You won't find it on so and so's web page. | |||
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Maybe Don Heath will chime in regarding the 700's "fabulous" reputation at the PH exams in RIFA. The OP's experience was not from a bar. Hang around a range long enough and you'll see that along with bolt handles falling. As to the safety, well, there's a reason as to why Remington "settled" on so many and the thing won't even lock the bolt. PASS USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Oh, I've spent a day or two at the range, more than you I daresay, and have never seen it happen. Never. Nor when I walk through the woods do I see the ground littered with broken Remington handles that you cyberspace experts say are common. That's what happens when you've got an axe to grind and get your info from the net. While you're checking with people, you might want to check the 700's track record with the Marine snipers. When someone is shooting back at you, you don't want to depend on something that doesn't work or isn't reliable. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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I've had bolt handles and extractors replace on few Rem 700 and I must say I do like Pacific bolt handles along with the Sako type extractors. I guess I should say bolt handle fell off hunting and the extractors broke off at the range. VFW | |||
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People that keep comparing combat application of a firearm and comparing it to hunting, particularly dangerous game have little or no experience in neither. If you think the standard issue USMC Sniper Rifle is "as is" and the same as your 700, well that tells me what I need to know.. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Damn Jorge.....remeber when everyone was bashing your Sabatti? The derangement? Quit already on the 700s.  You don't like 'em, fine. Quit bashing things you have no PERSONAL experience with. MILIIONS love the damn things! . | |||
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I admit it, dislike them, hating's for democraps  , but one minor correction, I did own ONE ONCE. Classic in 35 Wheelen for about five minutes. Out of the box the slots for the lugs were overcut and the bolt would stick when thrown all the way over. That and actually experiencing a few, very few maladies foretold here, no thanks. The derangement did not just happen, I just got tired of listening to the fable of how much better they were than Model 70s and that "out of the box" bullshit. Yeah, pretty much don't care for them...USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Maybe you know exactly zero about Remington extractors and all you do is run around quoting a bunch of others you hang with that also know zero about Remington extractors. All of you are a clique that shake your collective heads like bobble head dolls. If you take all the Remingtons that I own times the number of years I have owned, reloaded for them and shot them it would total more than several hundred years. Not only that but my brothers would add another several hundred years to that . Now you can also add several hundred years of Mausers, M70s, Mannlichers, autoloaders, pumps, single shots and lever guns and I think I have you by miles in seniority, experience and professional knowledge. While you spent your career in a non-design capacity I spend 50 years in design and manufacturing of mechanical and electrical systems. So point your finger to any other expert you want since you are so lacking. I need no expert. I lived the life of manufacturing and design.
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How nice for you but you might want to check the subject line of this thread and while you're at it also ask the armed forces what they do with the Remington extractor, blot handle and safety...but do enjoy your Remingtons and your clairvoyance as to what I do/did or know. I'll try and get over it. As far as reading or repeating what other people say, I never did own a Yugo, but I sure as hell read about them a lot.. JTEX: Make that two sir. Up at our place in PA, we call it the 'Rail Gun", Heavy barreled 700 stainless with bull barrel with the vented laminated stock in 22-250, very accurate rifle... USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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The constant bashing of the 700 by some internet experts is very tiresome. It is also offensive. Empty cans rattle loudest. | |||
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I thought this was about the 783. Does it have the same style as the 700 or is it in a savage style extractor. | |||
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I don't think I said the 700 was sent into sniper service "out of the box" but I was using it as and example of a damn fine start toward building a sniper rifle. I've never hunted DG nor have I been a sniper. My combat experiences were limited to a M1 and a BAR. (Both of which, incidentally are push feed weapons.) What is yours? And if you want to talk about tedious, read a few of the post about the fabled pre 64's. Way too many for a satisfied Remington user to have to listen to some cyberspace "expert" whose sack of knowledge is comprised of hearsay, conjecture, speculations, outright bullshit and 15 minutes of outright hands on experiences. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Peace gents, I'm out of line.... Crap, I didn't read the above post...apparently reading comprehension eventually goes and there's no Viagra for that. Guess you missed the part where I said I own (one) and dumped the other. Combat? El Dorado Canyon, Desert Storm, OEF... Oh and before that former USMC 0311....and I don't post what I haven't experienced or verified. but here's another thought. I've never hunted with Sierra bullets and based on what I have READ and what some folks have experienced, I never will... USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Apparently all 783's are still under warranty as they are so new to the market. Anyway contacted Remington and they say they are going to fix it no charge. I know a broken extractor is not a major issue at the range but it could ruin a hunt. The guy told me on the phone this is supposedly the first 783 so far that he has heard of the extractor breaking. Just repeating what he said. Now im not bashing remingtons in general. I've used and owned lots of 700's over the years, my 870 isn't going anywhere, wish I still had the 1100 I use to have. Ive owned wincheters, marlins, brownings, etc etc. However just giving my one an only experience with Remingtons new 783 and Remington is apparently offering to make it right. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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"Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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I've had a 60's vintage BDL in 270 since I bought it brand new, nothing ever done to it but a trigger job. Back in the day I hunted 100 days a year. That being said, when I bought my XCR in 2011 the extractor was too big to chamber a factory 375 round. I had my gunsmith put in a Sako extractor, weld the bolt handle on (cause I was paranoid) and had him rechamber it to 375 Weatherby while it was there just because ... It's a nice rifle now Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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+1 That there makes lots of sense | |||
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Thank you very much for your service! I am a big fan of Sierra bullets too! I have killed more animals with Game Kings than any other bullet.  . | |||
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USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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I still have mine. The bolt handle broke off it but Jim Wisner fixed it. I owned a Remington 700 once and the bolt handle came off that one also. I've never broken an extractor though. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Only ever had one Rem extractor break. Well It was broken when I bought the rifle, a 788. The spring not the lip was broken but it stayed in place and as long as I worked the bolt fast the cases ejected. I have known sako and mauser ectractors to fail/ break. So what! Anything machanical can and will fail. The 3 position safety of th 720 range is what Rem should of kept IMHO. Back to an earlier question what sort of extractor does the 783 have? | |||
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The 783 extractor is in a slot in the right bolt lug face, like the Savage and the post 64 Win M70. For us 788 lovers, they had exactly the same extractor system as the 700 and had a brazed on bolt handle with a smaller adhesion surface than the 700. For those wondering what kind of extractor the M24 Sniper rifle that TACOM buys for the Army; it has the standard Remington 700 clip type extractors. | |||
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Forgot to update this. Sent the rifle back to Remington they got it 09Sep2013 and within two days it was on its way back to me. Repairs performed were Replace Bolt Head, Check Headspace, and Ream and Polish Chamber. Before I sent it back when you would work the bolt it was binding and rough. A lot of the shells were hard to chamber etc. Now action is very smooth and shells chamber just fine. Put me down as very pleased with their Customer Service. Got around to shooting it this weekend. First tried 150gr Ballistic Tips and 165gr Sierra GK BTHP. Tried different powders Varget, Re19, Re 17 was shooting patterns instead of groups. Got back out Sunday and loaded up the Sierra 165gr with IMR 4350 and H4831sc. Long story short. Got zeroed in up close, then put up 3 inch Shoot-N-C at 200 yards. Shot and when I shot called it and said I pulled to the right. Was less than inch high and less than inch right. Shot again took out the little red dot in the center of the Shoot-N-C. Thats good enough for me and not bad for a $400 budget 30-06. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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