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Been wantin' a short spot and carry gun and had a question about the T3's Big Boar. Anybody shootin' one yet? Seems like a funny choice in barrel length at 19"s for the 300Whizzum, and maybe even the 30'06. Why 19"s ...and not say 20"s like a Ruger Ultra Lite or 20.5"s like a CZ full stock?? Is there something special about barrel harmonics at that length? Would the 308 be the best choice of the 3 calibers offered? Ron | ||
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Paolo, well you got to trash the gun I was asking about with out ever answering my question on any of the guns I mentioned...but then that was all you wanted to do. Thanks for the non answer... Having shot a Tikka WTHunter for the last 4-5 years years I am well aware of the T3's shortcomings even against it's predecessor...and the WTH's shortcomings against the parent company that I used to sell for. Having personally owned half a dozen or more SAKO's and maybe 40-50 Remington, Ruger, Savage & Stevens, Weatherby, Winchester, CZ and some other popularly priced brands, and spending 13 years in the industry as a distributor and regional factory rep I understand what is available in the market for less than $1000 for a production rifle. If I had a $1000 to spend on a rifle I intend to beat the crap out of in the roughest hunting I can do ...we'd still be having this conversation about barrel length??'s Any other Tikka haters or high price snobs want to take a shot? Take your best shot as long as you answer the question...what is the magic involved for a short barreled rifles barrel length & why did Tikka pick 19"s ...which is an odd length I think? As far as Ruger's 20" Ultra Lite - my second choice in a 6 lb $500 shooter ...there ain't none in North Texas or Dallas except in that most usable of all calibers 204 Ruger...an I ain't goin pig huntin' with a 204 when the footy prints are big as the back of my hand....and the mud is rubbed on the trees around the waterhole just short of waist high. OBTW one of the three the largest independent gun dealer in DAllas won't sell Ruger 77's anymore ....calls them bigbox retailer trash...sells Vanguards in couple grades and uhoh 3 models of T3's as his price leaders. Since this guy does most of the warranty work in North Texas, and has for the last 25-30 years, and sez he almost never gets a Tikka of any kind back from any of the rednecks he sells to....I'll tend to believe him instead of some online gunrag shill if you don't mind. Ron | |||
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That statement shows just how much experience Chuck has had with the T3, very little indeed, I would be very surprised if he has ever fired one. | |||
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Probably some nice even number of millimeters that happens to come close to 19". "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Did the math; 483 millimeters isn't that nice and even. Next theory? "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Nineteen inches must be a European thing. I see that Steyr makes some with that length. | |||
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If you want a short handy rifle I would not worry about an inch here or there. I have used 308's with 18 and 20" bbls, no difference in field performance. I have used 20" and 19 3/4" 375 H&H's, and a 20" 350 Rem Mag. I find these short bbled rifles a joy to use. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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According to the 1971 Guns Illustrated, Winchester used to offer a Model 70 Mannlicher with a 19" barrel. Maybe that was Tikka's inspiration? | |||
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I've got a new in the box Big Boar in 06. It hasn't been fired, I ordered it and paid for it and now an thinking of going in another direction. My 2 best old buds (rifles) are both in need of tube jobs. If any one has an interest then please PM me. Thanks Mark D | |||
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Howdy from another north Texican. I've got a Remington model 7 in .308 that is as light as anyone could want, but that light barrel is very finicky about where it puts bullets of different weights. There is a 14 inch different in POI between 150 and 180 grain loads in this thing. And the 180s shoot lower, I would have expected the opposite. This model 7 has a 20 inch barrel, and it's a decent shooter. Usually groups 3 into about an inch and a half at 100 yards. I do not like that flimsy injection molded stock, but I have other Remingtons with similar stocks that shoot great. I really think this one's problem is due the ultra light barrel. I haven't shot a Tikka, or a Ruger Ultra Light. But I have owned a couple of Ruger Internationals that I really liked, a .308 and a .243. And I've owned a Remington 600 in .308 that was a fantastic little rifle. I know it's not as light, but have you considered a Remington 673? Most folks find them fugly, but I kinda like 'em. Might pick one up ... in .308 <G> | |||
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One reason may also be that the factory was already producing 19" barrels for the Sako Finnlite prior to the introduction of the Tikka T3 ..... production economics and all that stuff had a bearing as usual. I have a Sako Finnlite in 7-08, it shoots well under 3/4" with homeloaded 120Gn Nosler BT, and under 1" with Federal factory 150Gn ers. My average range at Roe and Fallow deer in UK is 100 - 150 metres, so I cant comment on longer ranges. My .260 is based on a Tikka 595 action, and that shot 1/2" when it was a .243. Rgds T260 | |||
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I have a T3 laminate in 300WSM that will shoot well under MOA as well as a 695 in 338 Win Mag that does the same. One in 308 literally shoots in one hole. I'm not in love with the rifle but they do shoot. Light, great trigger and accurate-what else is ther for average American use. Anything Worth Doing Is Worth Overdoing. | |||
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