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So I bought a Rem 700 ADL .270 thinking I'd like a second beater type rifle to have around, mostly for practicing but also for hunting rough places and on horseback, where it may be subject to complete destruction. I was shocked to find out the thing really shoots. It put 3 in the same hole and grouped well with most loads. So I got myself a shooter for once. It even shoots better than an expensive semi-custom job I own. The only problem is I'm not crazy about the cheap-o stock its wearing. I'm thinking about putting it in a Bell & Carlson. I'm concerned that I may be shooting myself in the foot though. Is there any chance it will be LESS accurate after dropping it into a better stock? On the other hand the factory stock isn't even free floated, if I keep it, what are the odds temp or elevation changes may throw it off? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the 270 won't do it the .338 will, if the 338 won't I can't afford the hunt! | ||
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Yes, There is a chance that a sporter contoured barrel Rem M700 will shoot worst freefloated than it shoots with a pressure point. Many of these Remington rifles are designed to have a pressure point there. But, if you go ahead restock it freefloated and it doesn't shoot as well, you would have the option to add a pressure point back into the new stock. ________ Ray | |||
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I've hear good thing about their Medalist stocks. It's a stiffer, more substancial stock, which will provide a more stable platform for action to set on. They are designed with an aluminum bedding block, so they shouldn't need bedding, and will provide the tempature stability you are looking for in an all weather beater rifle. If for what ever reason you took the stock out of the box, floated the barrel, and screwed to action on it was less accurate, it's no big deal to bed it, but again, that's usually not needed with these stocks on a round action like the M700. | |||
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I'd leave it as is, hell it's shooting one hole groups! When the stock get's so beat to crap that it's unbearable paint it like 458Wins ...  Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I have the same issue with factory LOP. I have a remington 5R-Milspec .308 that is absolutely a tack driver but the stock didn't fit me. I ordered a B &C stock in my length of pull and after a long battle of wits with myself, switched it out. It shoots just as well with a different "free floated" stock as it did with the original stock from Remington. PM me and I will walk you through the steps in getting it back to the original groups. | |||
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Absolutely, it COULD shoot larger groups. Remington barrels are pretty stout and I have never seen anything to support them "needing" a pressure point. I actually just relieved a pressure point on one and it went from an inconsistent 1.5MOA gun to producing groups in the .6s. So, I'm restocking it in a McMillan I have here. The only one I ever had open up after floating was a Ti Mountain Rifle. It ended up needing a full length bedding job. And it still didn't shoot well so it got a new barrel and stock before it would behave. Free floating it should make it more consistent though especially if bedded as well. I'll trade slightly larger groups for consistent groups and POI. As stated by others, if it won't shoot floated then build it back up. Use shims to figure out what sort of pressure you need and then bed the tip to exert the same. Good luck. | |||
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I think you should leave it as is. Why mess with a great shooting gun? You self described this as a beater, so who cares if the stock gets beat up? When it gets too bad, then swap it out. My guess is it will take many years to get there. Then I agree with the Shoemaker comment. Just throw a coat of paint over it. | |||
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Why fix what ain't broke? Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Murphy's second law: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I have an FN mauser that a friend sold me brand new in the box for $75.00 back in 1973. The stock on that gun is so ugly it would abort a lady crocodile. (My thanks to the late Jack O'Connor for that line.  ) That's the bad news. The good news is it will put 3 shots into a half inck at 100 yards day in and day out. I used it for a couple of years and it's been sitting in the safe ever since. It's just too damn ugly to take out in public. Oh yeah, it too is a .270 Win. I am seriously afraid that if I restocked that one, I would lose the accuracy. It has a 24" barrel that is as thin as a soda straw and the whole gun is slightly less yhan 7 pounds with scope, sling and a full magazine. I'm keeping in case I have to do another high country hunt. Really heavy rifles no longer thrill me..Paul B. | |||
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Chuck is right !!!! | |||
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I'll admit... its the best dilemna I've had in a long time. I hate to mess with it since its shooting good but I hate that stock. Guess there's be no harm in trying the B&C, as long as the stock could still be returned after a quick test drive... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the 270 won't do it the .338 will, if the 338 won't I can't afford the hunt! | |||
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I have the same thing going on with a older Rem 700 ADL in 30/06. It has one of the cheap black plastic tuperware stocks on it and will shoot about 5/8 of a inch at 100 yards.There is really no pride in owning it becase its so ugly.I think I'm going to paint the stock and see if that will help. | |||
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IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT is the best advise in gundome, USA. a stock can always be refinished down the road, and you think the stock is cheesy, then you say you want something to stick in a saddle scabbard that can be distructed, well a factory is a good stock to destroy IMO?? go hunting and quit sweating the small stuff. I hate a gun I have to baby around, I don't baby my custom rifles anymore than my old 25-35 and my super accurate custom stocked 300 H&H looks like a stainless steel gun (no blue left ) with a driftwood stock.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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will a paint job give your car better gas mileage? just do what you feel best about...if it is set up right, you can make the stock more cosmetically appealing if that is what you think you need... or you can change the stock to something more trendy... if it doesn't shoot as well, it just means the new stock needs a few improvements done such as bedding etc.. questions like this, I sure hope don't keep some of you guys up all night worrying about trivial subjects such as this... | |||
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I'm not looking for better accuracy out of the stock! It just feels cheap than the balance is very top heavy cause the butt is hollow. It just feels like it'll break. I was just wondering what the odds were that the new stock would cause it to not shoot as well and it sounds like thats a possiblilty so I'm going to try to test drive it befor I commit my inletting the stock, bedding, and buying a nice floorplate. Trivial? Yes. More interesting than most things I do in a day? Definately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the 270 won't do it the .338 will, if the 338 won't I can't afford the hunt! | |||
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