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Just snooping at the local gun counter of a local store, and saw a Remington 700 on the shelf chambered in a 270 Winchester Short Mag! Really surprised me. It was a BDL but had the stock and the parkerized barrel and action like in the normal Walmart ADL look. Price was $449.00. I know Remington does special runs in things at times. However, it struct me as funny to see a Winchester short magnum chambered in a Remington action. What does this say for the "Short Magnum Wars" going on right now. Is Remington conceding to Winchester? Reminds me of the 244 Remington, when Remington launched the model 700 they did not chamber it intially in their 6mm cartridge, but did in the Winchester 6mm cartridge ( 243). Curious, so I looked at it. Thought I would pass it on. For those who might ask, It was at a BiMart, a local Oregon chain of stores. | ||
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seafire, I've been eyeballing the Model 700SPM (Special Purpose Magnum) in 270WSM for some time now. I too was surpised but delighted. Matte finish barreled action with a 24-inch BBL and a BDL hinged floorplate to boot. The black syn stock is the typical Remington syn stock (tent peg). But for under $450.00 it's getting the nod for my early Christmas present. Model # RAG7331 Hell I'll buy two, one for each of us. ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif){kind=icon} [ 12-02-2003, 11:31: Message edited by: BT100 ] | |||
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BT, sounds like a plan, let me email you my mailing address then. ![[Razz]](images/icons/tongue.gif){kind=icon} ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} With a 90 grain Sierra HP it would make a fun and dramatic hitting, occasional long shot prairie dog rig also, wouldn't it?? [ 12-02-2003, 12:02: Message edited by: seafire/ B17G ] | |||
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Assuming that this rifle is built on the short 700 action, Remington must have "stretched" their magazine box in order to accomodate the longer WSM cartridge. When one of you guys get hold of one of these rifles, please measure the box and let us know how long it is. By chambering the WSM, it would appear suspiciously that Remington is giving up on it's own line of proprietary short-fats. | |||
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What ever sells is what they produce. LLB | |||
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Stonecreek, I picked up my 700SPS a few weeks ago. Mag measures 2.870". I've checked 130&140g balistic tips, 140g Sierras, 140g accubonds and 150g partitions. All will fit the mag when seated to kiss the lands. A quick and dirty hunting load I worked up with the accubonds, using RL22, gives me 3200fps with three shot groups under 1/2" at 100 yards. Only complaint with the rifle is that I can't close the bolt with three rounds in the mag. They won't go down far enough to clear the bolt. | |||
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quote:If they made a 270 SAUM they would never chamber in the 270 WSM! ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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Aj300mag is right. I bought one of the Remington's in 270 Wsm and it shoots extremely well. And the price is right to. You are getting a BDL for 450.00 but the cheesey stock isnt much. Here where I live in Okla. we build quite a few wildcats and a very popular one is the 25 or 257 WSM. We usually start with a Rem. 700 in either 7 or 300 SAUM and use only the action. So far we have not had problems with the actions or the magazines. Seating to the lands hasn't been a problem. I really think Remington is seeing the writing on the wall, that the SAUM's just are not selling compared to the WSM's. It sure wouldn't hurt my feelings to loose the SAUM's. | |||
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I must admit to liking the SAUMs less acute shoulder angle. When are we going to get an intermediate action mag? ie 57mm long that allows a normal mag weight bullet eg 160/7mm or 180/30cal to be seated one calibre and fit an intermediate mag box? | |||
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quote:Yeah, that's a chronic problem with the WSM/SAUM/UltraMag line. Many of the rifles so chambered are only three-shot rifles when you include the one in the chamber. Worse yet, some attempts to chamber the short/fats in CRF guns which must feed from the magazine have resulted in two-shot rifles. Most of the time, of course, this is one more than enough, but I've had a number of instances (perhaps my fault or perhaps a result of unavoidable circumstances) in which an animal would have been lost had it not been for a fourth or fifth shot in the magazine. Diminished magazine capacity is just one reason (among several) that I have felt no inclination to get involved with the short/fats. | |||
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Boys, FWIW, I recently handled Ruger's stainless M77 chambered for the 300 WSM... if I were planning on a custom WSM this would be the action I'd use. Ruger, due to its use of casting's, was able to widen the magazine and incorporate a wider mag box and follower. It feeds like a blinkin champ and holds three down comfortably! Leave it to Ruger... | |||
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I haven't seen a M-70 WSM yet that wouldn't digest Three in the Magazine with no problem. Rems and few others yes. I, also think Rem is seeing the light, the saum's just aren't keeping pace with the WSM's in more ways than one! [ 12-04-2003, 06:43: Message edited by: Marsh Mule ] | |||
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Seafire: The 270 WSM is a DRAMATIC cartridge when loaded with the 90 gr. Sierra on top of somewhere around 70 gr. of RL 19. Develops an accurate 3610 fps from my coyote hunting buddies 24" barrel and DESTROYS coyotes. No hide hunting with this one that is for sure. About the same results as his 300 WSM pushing a 125 Nosler BT at 3525 fps. It really has to be seen to be believed. Shoot Safe, Shoot Straight........RiverRat | |||
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I know of a handful of .300~.338 ultramags that will take three in the mag and you can drop one into the tube. Only one .338 took a little file work to cure it's problem. I've got a McM stock on order for the .270. Past experience tells me that it will be a tad deeper in the mag area, I should gain enough to room stuff three into the mag and be able to push them down to close the bolt, without damaging the spring. I'm only lacking about 1/16". Where I hunt the animals are in the next county before you get off the fourth shot RiverRat, thats next on my agenda, gotto pick up some 90g's my next trip to the shop. [ 12-04-2003, 09:14: Message edited by: AJ300MAG ] | |||
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MarshMule, I've had two M70 WSM's... they *barely* held three and scraped the hell out of the third round when the bolt was closed over them. The mag well is plainly too narrow. That much mag spring tension can create feeding issues, especially in a CRF action. For a custom WSM platform I'd look no further than Ruger's MKII... obviously it needs some polishing and a trigger  | |||
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I thought the WSM`s were a little over 3.000.at any rate I had a M-7 300RSAUM and it shot good but I couldnt get the speeds of the factory stuff with handloads and it was a 2+1 deal. My 300RUM 700BDLSS however is still at an idle at 3400 with 180`s and will take 3+1 with no problem. if I was getting a 270 magnum it would have to be a long action.the WSM would work in a short with 130`s I geuss but load it with 150`s at 2.800 and I bet it wont beat a 270 Win by much. | |||
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