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This is still in line with my beater rifle threads/discussions. Basically, these are some of the most affordable rifles available to me and are the most likely candidates. I do not "need" a gun, this is just a want thing so it comes out of my "fun money"!

Pros/Cons:

Remington: It's a 700. There is a massive aftermarket and they are generally quite accurate. Standard rounds have a 24" barrel, while the magnums come packing a 26" pipe. Thinking of a cheap way to get into a .300 Ultra Magnum, or a .30-06 with 24" pipe "just because".

Weatherby: Built on the Howa 1500 action, probably has the stiffest stock, fits well. Heaviest of the bunch! 24" barrel on all rounds, shame as I would have liked a .300 Weatherby with a 26". 7mm Rem or .300 Win most likely as a result. .25-06 is also tempting as I've never owned one. Accuracy guarantee.

Tikka: Sako-made barrel, lightweight. Has detachable clip which may or may not be an advantage, but it's center feed which helps the stubby WSM rounds. Thinking .270 WSM. Adjustable trigger. 22 7/16 and 24 3/8 barrels. Accuracy guarantee.

Savage: Not quite as light as the Tikka, but also features removable clip. Features AccuTrigger, 22" and 24" barrels. Stock seems to be least stiff. New recoil pad claims to be more effective than Decelerator/Limbsaver/R3. Also available in .25-06.

So let's hear some experiences. I'm looking at buying something within the next month or so. Animals will include whitetail deer, black bear, grey wolf, caribou, moose, and elk. Maybe pig if I can find a good area as they are a "problem" non-native species that can be hunted at will. I have other guns to compliment the arsenal so one gun does not need to do it all.

Question:
Which would you choose?

Choices:
Remington Model 700 SPS (blued/syn)
Weatherby Vanguard Synthetic (blued/syn)
Tikka T3 Lite (blued/syn)
Savage 111FCNS (blued/syn)

 


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None of those I would choose you have listed, but I would go with the .270 WSM, superb caliber...fast, and flat!!!! it doesn't get any better than that.
 
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agreed: none of the above.

IMO, if this is supposed to be a "fun gun" - then pick a gun that's fun! Or one that just plain lights your candle somehow.

For me, I'd buy an old Mauser in 7x57, restock it and rebuild it. In fact, I'm actually going this way twice over: I have a Garand on order and will also be getting a K31. Both are serious fun, and the K31 is known to be stupid accurate. So I'm game!


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Originally posted by MikeyB:
This is still in line with my beater rifle threads/discussions. Basically, these are some of the most affordable rifles available to me and are the most likely candidates. I do not "need" a gun, this is just a want thing so it comes out of my "fun money"!

Pros/Cons:

Remington: It's a 700. There is a massive aftermarket and they are generally quite accurate. Standard rounds have a 24" barrel, while the magnums come packing a 26" pipe. Thinking of a cheap way to get into a .300 Ultra Magnum, or a .30-06 with 24" pipe "just because".

Weatherby: Built on the Howa 1500 action, probably has the stiffest stock, fits well. Heaviest of the bunch! 24" barrel on all rounds, shame as I would have liked a .300 Weatherby with a 26". 7mm Rem or .300 Win most likely as a result. .25-06 is also tempting as I've never owned one. Accuracy guarantee.

Tikka: Sako-made barrel, lightweight. Has detachable clip which may or may not be an advantage, but it's center feed which helps the stubby WSM rounds. Thinking .270 WSM. Adjustable trigger. 22 7/16 and 24 3/8 barrels. Accuracy guarantee.

Savage: Not quite as light as the Tikka, but also features removable clip. Features AccuTrigger, 22" and 24" barrels. Stock seems to be least stiff. New recoil pad claims to be more effective than Decelerator/Limbsaver/R3. Also available in .25-06.

So let's hear some experiences. I'm looking at buying something within the next month or so. Animals will include whitetail deer, black bear, grey wolf, caribou, moose, and elk. Maybe pig if I can find a good area as they are a "problem" non-native species that can be hunted at will. I have other guns to compliment the arsenal so one gun does not need to do it all.


If you want out of the box accuracy, tough as nails reliability and the best detachable mag setup, the Savage wins every day of the week.


 
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I would choose either a Rem 700 Or a CZ. These two are real good choises and so is Sako.
 
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The Model 700 would be my pick. It's hard to beat a 700. I've owned Weatherby, Browning, Savage, Tikka, Marlin, Remington, and shot or custom loaded for many others, Remington gets my vote every time.I currently own 6 700s and they are probably the most consistantly accurate rifles I've dealt with. Accurate out-of-the-box, easy to mod, good action to build from, tons of available accessories, etc etc....

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I dont believe that the Tikka will be beaten by the other three when it comes to out of the box accuracy.

But, my experience is limited to 700's and Tikka's and none of the Tikka's were T3's.
 
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You could get a better stock for the Savage, they are generally very accurate, with lots of aftermarket parts available as well. Cheap also.


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

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Looks like the Weatherby is ahead a little so far. I mean, it does fit me the best and has an accuracy guarantee that includes a fired target as proof of how well their vice can shoot!

Still humming and hawwing over this. Savage can easily switch barrels/calibers with proper tools, pretty light as well, good trigger (thinking of a .30-06 with a .257 bob barrel for fun). Tikka has an accuracy guarantee and is super light, also decent trigger (but no Accutrigger). Remington is very well supported by smiths and aftermarket, plus there's nothing more manly than an "Ultra Magnum"! rotflmo


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In the long run you'll be happy with the Tikka, but I would chose another caliber, perhaps 25-06 or 6.5x55. Lou


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You should handle all the rifles and go with the one that feels the best to you.

Then decide on a caliber, in the rifle you have chosen.

After handling/hunting/shooting with all of the above rifles and a few one others, I can tell you which one I prefer, but that doesn't matter.

It is what YOU prefer. Best to go with your gut instinct.
 
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id look for a used steyr.
 
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The choice has been made...

I'm now the proud owner of a shiny (okay, it's matte, not gloss) Weatherby Vanguard. I decided on a .300 Winchester Magnum since I don't really have a dedicated moose/elk gun. 180gr TSX are the first on the list for load development once I blast off my two boxes of Federal Classic 180gr (buy one with new gun, get second free!) for a break-in.

Really like this gun, the fit and finish are very nice for this price level. Action is smooth and feeds very well, looks to be well aligned in the stock (accraglass will be joining the party though). Have only played with the trigger a little but it appears to be adjustable, leading me to believe a little polishing on the sear could have this trigger where I want it to be.

I don't think any of the other guns really fit quite as nicely as the Weatherby. I was kinda impressed how such a rakish stock could feel so good to me after shooting straight combed rifles for so long. Also, the extra weight over it's competition should keep recoil to a sane level so I can practice more.

The factory target printed 1.1" with Remington Core-Lokt 180's so I'm pretty comfortable with the accuracy potential!

Undecided on the scope for this unit, I've been eyeballing the Nikon Buckmasters scope in 3-9x40mm which I have no experience with but like the ProStaff/Monarch, the Leupold VX-I in 3-9, and the Bushnell Elite 3200 also 3-9. Will post pics of completed rig and subsequent range results! Smiler


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The Vanguard is hard to beat. I've got a SS Sub-MOA in 300 Roy. I'll probably soon have a standard SS in 257 Roy.

I'm running the 180 TSX out of my 24" barrel at about 3160fps with H4350. I got around 3230 with IMR7828 but it wasn't as accurate. Only thing I've done to mine is install a Timney. If the trigger proves to be a pain, go that route. I put mine in and started shooting. About 3 lbs. out of the box.

Have fun. You might want to consider a decelerator pad as well. It works well on mine.

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Tikka T-3, smooth action, detachable mag, low bolt lift, way accurate, lightweight, plus a good scope mounting system, all at a fair price.
 
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Personally I have little use for any of the rifles you named..I prefer Mausers and pre 64 Mod 70s...


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get a steyr sbs in 25-06.
 
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Ruger syt stainless MKIIs in what ever caliber floats your boat.
 
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I think you'll like your Vanguard. I love mine in the .257 Wby Mag. I love the feel of the Vanguard.


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