A number of members have posted less than satisfactory accuracy results using Winchester FailSafes. Today, I tried factory 180gr in my '57 M70 with an older 4X Leupold with surprising results. 3 shot group at .275 and a 5 shot group at .392. Even my reloads with 66gr of 4350 and Woodleigh 180gr went 379in. Not so good with 150gr Sierra BT, 1.292in. This rifle shoots groups with the FailSafes tighter than my 6mm PPC. Maybe it's just the alignment of the planets today

I was unaware that WW even offered the Failsafe in the .300 H&H!! I'm so used to just loading for my two .300's that I don't really notice factory ammo. I have tried the Federal Premiums with 180 NP's and accuracy was not very good.

Any crono results?? Just curious.

FN in MT

Frank, The rifle is new to me and I bought two boxes of the 300 H&H Failsafes at a gun show for $20/bx just to have something to shoot while I got my brass and bullets together. The part number is S300HX. No chrono on these. I'm afraid to clean the bbl after these groups I will take the remainder of these to Namibia this September along with a couple of boxes of the Woodleigh reloads. Bob

I would make a suggestion and that is not to combine monolithic and conventional bullets as they work against each in the accuracy dept in most rifles...At least check this out in your rifle....

My 300 H&H shoots the failsafe and the BarnesX very well indeed, but it shoots about everything well, its not a pickey rifle and shoots most all loads to the same POI>

Ray, My rifle shoots the FailSafe and the Woodleigh 180's to about the same POI. I was surprised how the group opened up with the 150gr Sierras. Thanks to all, Bob

I get my best groups with my M70 300 H&H with Fed premiums 180 Noslers. Less than .500 at 100yds. That's about as good as I can shoot these days. But then again that's good enough to hit just about anything you'd shoot with a 300 H&H right between the eyes.

VFR: What velocities are you obtaining with the 66gr of IMR 4350 and your 180s? jorge