What powder are you using in yours? With 225gr TSXs I've tried reloader 15 and imr 4064. With 59gr of rel 15 I'm getting 2600fps and 1 3/4 to 2" groups. Like the velocity just wish the groups where better. With 56.5gs of 4064 I'm getting groups near an inch but only 2500fps. I would like the best of both worlds.

With the RL15 load I'd play with seating depth, going a LOT further off the lands than you might think woud give good accuracy... you might find a tremendous suprise how tight it'll group.

Have used both brands of 4895 with good accuracy. Reloader 15 gives best velocity in my rifle. As Mark said play with the seating depth and Rl 15 first.

Bob

Mark:
I have been using IMR4064 in my Whelens since the 1970's. It has always been the best powder for me and the various Whelens I have loaded for over the years. In my 24" Whelen 56 grains of 4064 gives me 2600fps+ with a 250 grain bullet, and right at 2700 fps with a 225 grain.
Only getting 2500 with 56.5, surprises me, maybe you have reached the point of diminishing returns with your load of 56.5 grains, in your particular rifle. Of course I don't know your barrel length, or how far you are from the lands. In my 700 based rifle, I load .010 off. Groups by the way, will run under 1".

Jerry

Don't be afraid to try a differnt bullet either. My 35 whelen likes any 250 grain bullet , and my load is 60 grains of RL-15, with any bullet 250 and Down.
I am sure that Barnes would stop an Elk as quick as anything with a good shot, But I get the same velocity with a 250 grain and I bet a partition would do as well more or less.
But I do agree with playing with the seating depth too barnes are a different breed of bullet. get a load that works for you and you can't go rong with a barnes....tj3006

I used 58gr IMR4320 with 250gr nos/par,rem cases,and fed210 primers.The volocities were pretty much the same with RL15 but I got much better accuracy with the 4320.Volocities were 2550fps from a 22" barrel.This was a hot load in my gun.

Mark
I get 2580fps out of 56grs. IMR 4320 and a 250gr. Nos.Partition.. The groups are 3/4 inch @100yrds..
I also get the same findings with 55grs.
Varget..Velocity is 2605..
Fed.210 primer
The 4320 load is what I use.. 23 inch tube
Also, with B.Tips it's almost benchrest rifle with 4320..
Start 5% below and work up..
AK

Consider VARGET also. It has performed better than IMR4064 and RL15 for me. It is the same burn rate as these two with better temp sensitivity.

MM

Thats guys I guess I should have said in my first post that my rifle is a Remington CDL with a 24" barrel. I've used the 4064 load on 2 hunts, taking 3 animals, and its worked great so far. Thought I'd see if I could get a little more out of her. I thank the local shop may have some 4320.

Mark, PLAY WITH SEATING DEPTH...

W748 should give you about 100 fps more than you current load at Max using a 225 Gr bullet. It should shoot better the closer you get to Max (W748).

Read Barnes' website, loading manual, and all you read here about seating depth. Barnes have shot thousands of their own bullets and it works to go around 0.050" off the lands. I have used it in .243, 308 and am ready to load some 180 gr in .358 WCF.

I use 58.5 gr. RL 15 behind a 250 gr. Nosler Partition at 2,525 fps seated .020 off the lands. It consistantly produces sub minute groups. I have a 3 shot 5/8" group in front of me as I type this. Do you think you are maxed out pressure wise?
Rich Elliott

Rich, I can't speak to the Whelen per-say but in the 350 RM I had I used the Alliant book's max 35 Whelen load of 59.5 RL15 and a 250 grain bullet at 2,620. No pressure indicators and the cases rolled out of the chamber.

If anything I think Mark could go to 60-60.5 gr's and I'll bet, coupled with adjusting seating depth, he could get a load that groups well and is safe and fast.

There's no reason a Whelen shouldn't get in the upper 2,600's or low 2,700's with a 225 unless a guy just doesn't care to run it fast which certainly is no crime.

Brad,
That's what I was thinking. And he has a 24" barrel to burn more powder in Mine is a 22". But at that length it's quite handy in the saddle scabbard and in the bush.
Rich Elliott

Just as a point of reference, I got right at 2600 fps with both the 225 gr Sierra and 225 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip using 56.5 grs of RL-15. Rifle: Ruger M77 MkII (special run for Davidson's a few years ago) with 22" barrel, 1-16" twist. (I no longer own this rifle.)

56.5 gr RL-15
225 gr Sierra - COL:3.25" - Aver Vel: 2592 fps
225 gr Nosler Bal Tip - COL:3.34" - Aver Vel: 2608 fps
Primer: WLR
Brass: Rem .35 Whelen

-Bob F.

35 Whelen Custom Springfield 25.5 225 BARNES X 2752 AA-2015 56 gr CCI 200 REM 3.344

These are 60K + PSI loads most likely but AA-2015 and Varget work well in my old custom chambered Whelen with 25.5" barrel.

Varget does too.
35 Whelen Custom Springfield 25.5 225 NOSLER BT 2725 Varget 59 gr CCI 200 REM 3.346

Im using 57gr of IMR 4064 with the 225 TSX's and accuracy is just over 1/2 in. for four shots I have not cronoed this load yet but accuracy is great. Try seating to the last ring on the bullet and go from there, Barnes shows this on there CD of the TSX bullets.
Craven