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I saw a Factory Winchester M70 takedown in 300 WM today. Never knew that Win made them b4. Lite gray synthetic stock, long fluted barrel, M700 type spacer, forearm lever. $3k. | ||
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They are heavy and the actual T/d conversion was performed by HS-Precision, not Winchester. | |||
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How much? I researched takedowns several years ago and settled on a Blaser R93. I have 3 barrels for it now. So, if you just want one rifle that is a takedown then this might be it, but, if you want the flexibility of multiple calibers on the same receiver then you might want to look at the Blaser or Sauer 202 takedown, or the new Merkel Rx Helix. Just my 2 cents. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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+1 The Blaser R93 is a wonderful takedown rifle. Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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Oops! Just saw the $3K price, and synthetic stock to boot, in the OP. I guess if you are a diehard Win fan.... but not for me. You might be able to get a H-S Precision (used) for that price. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I have a Blaser R93 (5 barrels). It's an interesting rifle but in my mind not quite perfected. (blast away). The R8 seems to fix a few of the magazine problems of the R93. Even the Mauser 66 had a better magazine but not in all the calibers of the R93. Rich PS. The Blaser is a swap barrel (like a savage:-) not a true takedown. | |||
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"PS. The Blaser is a swap barrel (like a savage:-) not a true takedown." Not sure I understand this. I regard a takedown rifle as one that allows the user to quickly disassemble the rifle for travel or storage, or, to change calibers. The NRA reviewer of the Merkel Helix said as much. I would not put the Savage in this category. the savage design allows one to change barrels as long as one has a (presumably torqued) wrench for the barrel nut, but I do not think it would something one does several times in one hour, as I have done with my Blaser. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Takedown to me means the easy/quick/convenient disassembly[all being relative]...of a firearm to form a shorter overall length package. Some require a person to use minimum tools to do so, some none at all. Some have forends that remain one with the stock, some have forends that stay attached to the barrel, Some have forends that are a totally independent item, upon takedown. Blaser 93 aftermarket t/d option. .... more here on Ulrich t/d R93. | |||
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Damn, Trax, where do you find this stuff? Very interesting! Interestingly enough, one of the promotional videos from Blaser showed a hunter clambering up a rocky hillside and then pulling his dissembled R93 from his backpack, assembling it, and executing a presumably killing shot! never having hunted such terrain, I would assume that this is easier than have a rifle slung over your back. I CAN see that needing both hands while climbing would be much easier with a backpack than with a slung rifle. So, I enjoy the R93 for it's smaller travel and storage, rather than it's "keep dissembled while hunting capability". Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I have found the Blaser R 93 to be a most excellent hunting rifle. Here at my place I use the 22LR rifle barrel quite a bit to control the turtles in my pond. And I have taken quite a bit of game from grouse to quail, doves, rabbits, squirrels, ducks and even a BIG Tom turkey, with the 28ga barrel. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Peter, I swap barrels on my Savages in about three minutes and maintain headspace under .001". It's pretty easy. Simply take a fired case (without resizing) and seat a bullet to just clear the lands. Just hand tighten to a snug fit on the chambered reference round. | |||
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Interesting IHS. Can you "feel" the chambered round while tightening? The other item, of course, is that the Blaser has the scope mount on the barrel. My Blaser case has space for two barrels with scope mounted, thus changing barrels (and scope) results in an already sighted in, and repeatable, caliber. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I just prefer to own more firearms then swapping barrels out. Makes more sense if one lives in a place that limits the number of firearms one can. | |||
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I swap barrels on my Mauser M03 all the time. It's a great system and each scope and barrel returns to zero, every time! No, it is not your granddaddy's M98. It isn't cheap! You have to use Mauser's stuff. It is well made and will give myself and my heirs years of service! 6 barrels from 404 Jeffery to 22-250! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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My appreciation of T/d rifles is not primarily because one can swap barrels out. I like the fact that they can become smaller convenient packages for travel, where space is awkward &/or limited. If there are periods when you intend to hunt with the rifle and transport it under more normal circumstances, then you can leave it assembled & sighted,in your safe, and transport it already assembled. There will be no POI issues when arriving at your hunting grounds. T/d rifles simply allow you the option to reduce travel size, when its much more practically suitable to do so. They are not for everyone, but are also not considered a novelty by those select few who gain real practical advantage from the feature. | |||
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Peter, you can feel the barrel turn on the case. I spent some time checking VS using go/no-go gauges at my gunsmiths before deciding it was as good as the gauges. The 223 comes with a 1:9" twist. I load checked with some Black Hills 75gr OTM first. Ten rounds went into 1.25" at 100yds. I fired one round, pulled the barrel and replaced it using that fired case. I repeated that process with each succeeding round until I had a 10-shot group. The group was more oval (vertical) than round, but center of impact was in the original ten shots. It just enlarged the group by 1/4". I couldn't see any difference with the 308W or 7STW (rechambered 7RM) Rich | |||
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I have a Savage 110FP. Very accurate! What about bolt face changes? I assume that a 308 has a different bolt face than a 223? Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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