Would you call a 30-06 with a Nosler 180 gr Nosler Partition a "Perfect" round for Vancouver Island Black bear, Elk, and Free Range Audads.
Look forward to your response.
Thanks in advance,
W.
(trying to decide to keep My Remington 700 rifle for these hunts, or buy a TC Encore 300 WIN MAG

.30-06 shooting handloaded 180's is hard to beat - RL22 is your best friend. Some have hit well over 2800 fps with a 24" pipe, which is plenty of power for NA game. I'd call it "Perfect" and take it hunting. When you hit that power level, I don't really know if the extra power of a .300 Win will be really noticeable, only a slightly flatter trajectory. The 180 Partition will still hit hard and penetrate deep. I think you'd need to step up to a 26" Weatherby or RUM to notice any real difference, and then again, only at extended ranges. Inside 300 yards, the old '06 will kill 'em as dead as dead gets.

That's one of those unfortunate "perfect" combinations with the potential to empty out a gunsafe. Placed well its argueable whether there's any non-dangerous game that cant be taken with that combination.
It's one reason I hate the 30/06 so much!
Cheers...
Con

It is perfect, but so is the 200 gr. Partition.
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Is it a great combination? yes.
Is it perfect? no.
At least not for me and the elk that I have taken with that same combination.
For starters I have never gotten an exit on a bull with that combo.
How important is that? well none got away but I do like blood pumping out both sides if possible.
A high ribcage shot might not bleed much if at all and if in thick stuff and a lot of other tracks that can suck big time.
Plus there is often a bunch of blood shot meat with that bullet and since I am about eating as much as anything I hate that.

The failsafe or barnes solid copper will most likely exit and not ruin a bunch of meat in the process.
Is the 06 the " perfect round" not by a long shot unless that is the most gun that you can shoot well.
With the 06/partition combo you are limited somewhat on angled shots, in through the flank on a big bull about to step out of sight and you are in for a long miserable tracking job.

If I had my choice between your Remington and a TC in whatever caliber however I would think a man a fool to switch.
Now if you were to upgrade to a Rem/700 in 300win mag and use a little tougher bullet, that just might be perfect.
In my opinion of course.

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Originally posted by woodsie:
Would you call a 30-06 with a Nosler 180 gr Nosler Partition a "Perfect" round for Vancouver Island Black bear, Elk, and Free Range Audads.
Look forward to your response.
Thanks in advance,
W.
(trying to decide to keep My Remington 700 rifle for these hunts, or buy a TC Encore 300 WIN MAG

The 30-06 with 180 grain bullets is as good as it gets, no need for magnums on Vancouver Island. The only change I would make is I would use Swift A-Frames, but that's my personal preference. The Remington 700 is an excellent choice.

I would say it is the perfect round for everything short of the white bears.

Maybe not PERFECT but hard to out perform. It was my one of my go to combinations I used on Elk. roger

I like the sound of your combo 30/06 and 180 grn'ers are a great killer.

Yes, that is about as good as it gets. I also like the 200 gr. Noslers a bit better, but whos count'en, they both have the same end results, but hey so does the .375, dead is dead.

180 grain partitions can be driven in excess of 2700f/s and posses enough sectional density (.271) that they are an ideal choice. If there is something in the woods that can eat you the 200 grain partition, with a sectional density of .301, can easily be launched from the 30-06 at over 2600f/s. Few cartridges offer this much smack down power without punishing recoil.