Since were doing a lot of "kissing cousin" comparisons I think this one is probably not been threshed over and is even more likely to bring about strong opinions as these include dangerous game as well as the larger species of plains game and even elk and moose and the big bears.....

I'm especially looking forward to the DG experienced opinions as I suspect neither of these will make their day!

I have only used the 375 H&H or deer, pigs and turkeys.
But we all know what it can do...

I have used the 9,3x74R on a LOT of big game, including black bear, waterbuck, kudu, giraffe, cape buff and elephant.

So the 9,3x62 would do as well.

Anything I could do with a 375 H&H I have done with the 9,3x74R.

However looking at the numbers the 9,3x62&74 shoot a little lighter bullet [286gr] at a little lower velocity that the 375 H&H.

It has a little less recoil as well.

I have been very well pleased with the performance of my 9,3x74R with the 286gr Woodleigh Soft and Solid and the 286gr Nosler Partition.

These same bullets work for the smaller stuff like bobcat, caracel, civit cat, klipspringer, etc.

vapo,
I dont have DG exp. yet, but I can tell You I have been able to reach 2700 fps. w/ two diff. 375 H&H's firing the 300 gn. NP's and SAF's accuracy was 1.25 to 1.5" with each rifle.
I took a nice public land 5x6 bull w/ the 300 gn. NP @ 188 yds.
The bullet entered the upper onside chest where the neck and shoulder join, the bullet exited middle rib cage on offside. about 3' of penetration.
At the shot the bull fell back on his right rear ham and just fell over. bicycled back legs a bit and was still. exit was fist sized.
Im gettin a custom 9.3x64 built as we speak, I believe its a fine round, but under no circumstances can be stretched to a 375 H&H.
Just an opinion from a semi-greenhorn.

Jerry

Vapo go for one of each! Maybe even a matching pair. Why torment yourself with restrictions?

Should have said Im getting a 9.3x62 built (braindead)

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Vapo go for one of each! Why torment yourself with restrictions?

Already did.....now it's a matter of which one to use!

having had a few of both i vote 375. more universal and if the airlines looses your ammo, chances are much better to find 375 than 9.3x62 (or any other 9.3's) that said i've shot quite a bit of game with both, and as with anything else hitting them where it counts is the answer

I have owned several .375s. I don't own them any longer. However, I do own two 9.3X62s. One is sighted in with 250 grain Barnes TSX bullets and one with 286 Woodleigh PPs. The .375 is indeed a great cartridge but the 9.3X62 makes up into a much lighter, more protable rifle with a lot less recoil.

Since the 375 is inadequate for DG I suppose the 9.3 is even more inadequate.

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the 375 is inadequate for DG

I can assure you that there is no consensus on this statement.

Make a bergstutsen .375flanged*9,3*74r.

Me I decided I would split the difference and went with a 380PDK (380 Howell). Heck 260s at over 2700 300s at 2600 and 5 down in a Mauser. What more could a guy ask for.

You know me I always like to be different.

The 375 has the looks, and the empty cases give a better bellish sound when you move them around the bench. More seriosly the 9,3x62 is performancewise to close to the underwhelming 35 Whelen (check recent thread) to be considered. I love both the 35 and the 375 and would surely grow to love a 9,3 if I had one, but I'm not perfect.

The step up from the 9,3X62 to the 375 H&H is probably big enough to be noticed outside the internet and ballistics calculators but not very much.

Owned both, and if I had to pick one for moose and brownies it would be the 9,3x62.

It would be an easier rifle to carry and shoot since most of the time it could be built on a smaller and lighter platform.

Noted that member GSSP was posting pics of one he had done and he said he used a PacNor#3 barrel. How much more would a #4 weigh in 375 I wonder?

I just went to their site and it's a matter of a few ounces.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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the 375 is inadequate for DG

I can assure you that there is no consensus on this statement.

Sure there is. Just read the Big Bore forum.

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Originally posted by Blacktailer:

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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the 375 is inadequate for DG

I can assure you that there is no consensus on this statement.

Sure there is. Just read the Big Bore forum.

I only go there when I'm wearing my tin foil hat!

Have a 375, and have taken a hippo with it (Brain shots).

Dropped off a 9.3x62 barrel at the Smith last week.

Just from what I've read (Robertson and Ganyana), and having taken buffalo with a 404, I'd feel fine with any of these cartridges for buffalo and cats; with ele's I'd prefer my 404.

I have both. 2 are ALMOST the exact same and somewhat lighter because they're on a Blaser R93 OffRoad (synthetic) platform. The .375 H&H w/1.5x4.5x26 scope, sling & 4 rounds of ammo weighs in at 7.4 lbs.; the 9.3x62 w/same scope, sling & 4 rounds of ammo weighs 7 lbs. on the button due to it's 2.5" shorter barrel length.

Then there's a .37H&H Winchester Model 70 L/H w/the barrel loped off to 20". Which is a real Heavy-Weight at 10.5 lbs. when compared to the Blaser & the Zastava L/H which has a 20" bbl., too.

Well, yes, the 9.3x62 Zastava is a much lighter & compact rifle than the Winchester Model 70. If this makes a Hill-of-Beans to someone, great personally "ICGAFSL".

Well, I've got 2 each to compare and ther way I load 'em the 9.3x62 is certainly an authoritative, outstanding cartridge but it isn't nor ever will be a .375H&H. I've got a 9.3x74R, too and I can't tell the difference between it & a 9.3x62 other than the shape of the case. I've also standardized my loads of the 5 rifles with 250 gr. Accubonds for the 9.3's and 300 gr. Hornady R.N.'s for the .375's, works for me.

Is there a WHOLE lot of difference between them? Well, as I measure the so-called JND (Just Noticable Difference); Yeah, the .375H&H pushes harder on the giving end and thumps harder on the receiving end. This may be a Show-Stopper for some but I don't consider the recoil of a .375H&H to be so significantly outlandish that it requires any special attention. Certainly easy to master w/practice. The 9.3's are about like a 220 grain .30/06 Sprg. on steroids. Not a real attention-getter but you better have a firm shoulder/cheek weld when you stroke the trigger.

Not particularly scientific but my $0.02 anyway.

Yes, I enjoy all 5 rifles and they all have their places in my Grand-Scheme-of-Things and I consider myself fortunate to be able to possess these and other fine rifles. Others may have to make sacrafices and a choice between one or the other. For these folks; they can come shoot mine anytime.

Could I live with just the Blaser set; well, yes - but don't have to. Or make a choice between the 9.3 or the 375? Don't have to.

Like cable68 mentions above though; if I had an extra Winchester Model 70 L/H action laying around my next build would be a iron-sighted 404 Jeffery.

Have Fun w/your Choices.

Gerry,

Would you settle on a P17 Enfield (right hand) action for your 404 Jeffery?

Don

One of my top three gun not buying mistakes was not buying a new in box CZ550 in 9.3x62 for $499. I sort of forgive myself for it since my daughter was due to be born in three weeks, so I wasn't exactly in a big spending situation. But it was a good deal for a nice gun that would have been a good alternative to my kinda long and heavy CZ .375H&H.

LWD

I have had a couple of 375s, and they were great, but I like to shoot,and the recoil of the 9.3X62 is enough less, that I am comfortable shooting it all day, the 375 gets me a little punchy after a bit of shooting.

I would say if you were going to shoot biting, and stomping critters regular like, and the other game was secondary, go 375. If only shooting the stomper type stuff on an occasional basis, and the non dangerous where the usual prey, go 9.3. Of course the only true solution is a Blaser with a barrel in each caliber. Or skip the 375 and get a 416 barrel.

If you want to compare the .375 H&H with a 9,3, than take the 9,3x64 Brenneke!

It really depends upon your need for power. If your going to Africa for the big five then I would consider something much larger than the 375 H&H and everything outside of Africa does not require it so the 6.3 is much more useful IMO.

Face it Vapo, you're bored.

As much as I love the .375, really, if you're good with it, either does what you need to do.

I do wonder about some of the comparisons though- if the 9.3 is lighter, won't it kick more (compared to a heavier .375), so this usually will end up as a wash?

A little less energy, a little less theoretical penetration (due to lower SD and velocity), a little more drop/windage with similar BC bullets, but likely not enough for most of us to notice at a sane big game range. Given that, if I had to choose one at a camp because my gun didn't arrive, it would be which gun fits me better, not whether it was a 9.3 vs. a .375.

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Face it Vapo, you're bored.

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Originally posted by Monastery-Forester:
If you want to compare the .375 H&H with a 9,3, than take the 9,3x64 Brenneke!

Exactly right.

Have pretty decent rifles in both chamberings. Like both.

Tend to use the 9,3x62 more often for two reasons: 1) One of the 9,3x62s is probably more hardy in the snow, and 2) the 9,3x62s are definitely handier as they use smaller actions and are lighter.

Normaly I gravitate to the 06 based family of cartridges and away from the big bad belted crowd. But there is a time and a place for the brutes to come out of the safe and Dangerous game is that time.

I have to side with the H&H on this one. Just picture yourself staring @ black death 50 paces away knowing that the only thing between you and him is your trusty weapon and the choice becomes real clear. That is no time to play patsy.

9,2x62 in a CRF bolt rifle; or
.375 in a Hagn single shot

Sold the BRNO 602 in .375 about 4 years ago
Up to 4 9.3's now (2)X62'S (2) X57'S
guess that pretty much sums it up