Howdy Pards!

New poster here! I've got a question about 7x64 brenneke.

Recently, my wife and I picked up a beautiful old custom German Guild rifle in 7x64. It shoots fantastic! The only problem is that my old eyes really need a scope for more than 100-150 yards out and we really don't want to scope this rifle and drill into the case-hardened receiver.

So, I though what about getting a current production rifle in this caliber. Unfortunately I can't find anyone producing one. Does anyone know if there is a manufacturer making rifles in 7x64? If not, I know I can get a 98 Mauser rebarrelled to 7x64. Who would I go to to get a 98 receiver in great condition or possibly new?

Thanks,
Bystander

All of the major Euro makers will chamber for this round, very popular round in mainland Europe.

Sauer, Steyr, Blaser and many others will do this. Might need to be a special order if you are in N. America.

There are a couple of Blasers and a Ruger 77 RS on www.gunbroker.com. I also saw some expensive Mausers on www.gunsamerica.com. Look for 7x64.

Otherwise (assuming you are in the US) contact the US importer for Sauer rifles and see if they have a Sauer 202 in 7x64.

- mike

Your best bet may be to get a M700 or M70 or Ruger & rebarrel. The 7x64 is really just a .280, but not interchangable. Any action made for the .270/30-06 will work fine.

If you're in the United States, the .280 Remington is more widely available, and it is a ballistic twin of the 7x64.

I would definitely stick with the 7x64 Brenneke as opposed to the 280 Rem. Nothing against the 280 but the Brenneke round has more history and pedigree so to speak. Ammunition is relatively easy to find here in the U.S. although it's not as plentiful as the 280 Rem. Look at a CZ-550 action or for a commercial Mauser 98 if you decide to go that route.

As far as I can tell, no one currently manufactures a rifle in this caliber domestically. It's a fantastic round that's still going strong.

The Ruger 77RS can easily be found on the usual auction sites, and is scope ready. The CZ-550 has been in imported in 7x64, and also is scope ready. I have an FS in the chambering.

Sako rifles have also been imported, by companies such as Accuflite. Every now and then you can find a Brno 21 or 22 in 7x64.

Cabelas in Hamburg, Pa has a CZ550-FS in the 7X64 in their gun library and its quite attractive. I looked at this gun several times as it is tempting. You can get the phone # etc from the cabelas.com website.

Another option is find a good used modern 7X57 and have the chamber buzzed.

Thanks guys!

It looks like I will probably go with either one of the Ruger 77s on Gunbroker but I'm going to look into that CZ on Cabelas. Which do you think would have the better accuracy? I don't have experience with either rifle, having mostly bought Remingtons in the past.

Bystander

Occasionally you can find a Sako AV in 7X64 on GA or similar sites. I have a beautiful AV in 7x64. Lou

Buy a Sauer 202 or Blaser R93 and You could have that caliber as a standard. And You could change the barrel if You need another caliber...

Klaus

I had a full stock CZ550 in 7x64 for a while. Didn't shoot all that good, but I got a great buy on 20 boxes of remington 175 grain ammo. It is supposed to very easy to resize 280 ammo into 7x64.

The CZ shot really OK for hunting, but the scope mounts are just too high for my preference, besides at the time I had a featherweight model 70 in 280 remington. My youngest seems to have it now.

Someone at the Austin Texas gun show has had a ruger 77rs 7x64 for sale every time I have gone lately. Not sure of the date of the next show.

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Originally posted by pinotguy:

Look at a CZ-550 action or for a commercial Mauser 98 if you decide to go that route.

If accuracy matters to you, a Remington 700 is likely to be more accurate than either of those. It's stronger too, if that concerns you.

I'm a USA 7x64mm shooter, using a FN Supreme and a Steyr MKIII Professional, plus I have an unfired Euro-Weatherby in 7x64mm too. I see 7x64mm rifles on GunBroker, GunsAmerica, and GunsInternational. You can find 7x64s new and made by any of the European gun makers. Ammo is not a problem, as you can find fresh 7x64mm from RWS/RUAG, Lapua, S&B and PriviPart, as well as from Remington and Hornaday. FYI, my rifles seem to prefer bullet weights of 160 grains and above.
LLS

According to their web sites, both Sako(85) and Tikka chamber the 7x64 in their line up.

www.sako.fi
www.tikka.fi

Most 7x64mm rifles have a loooong throat. If you have one made you can have it throated so it shoots both 140 grain and 160 grain bullets well.

LD

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Originally posted by lawndart:
Most 7x64mm rifles have a loooong throat. If you have one made you can have it throated so it shoots both 140 grain and 160 grain bullets well.

LD

Correct observation. In fact most Euro calibers seem to be set up with long throats - in factory barrels at least. I'm not quite sure what the scoop is??
- mike

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Originally posted by mho:

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Originally posted by lawndart:
Most 7x64mm rifles have a loooong throat. If you have one made you can have it throated so it shoots both 140 grain and 160 grain bullets well.

LD

Correct observation. In fact most Euro calibers seem to be set up with long throats - in factory barrels at least. I'm not quite sure what the scoop is??
- mike

I think originally, most European military rifles for smokeless powder used cartridges that had long heavy RN bullets, and were throaterd accordingly. This seems to have then carried over to non-military loads, and was retained even after the changeover to shorter, spitzer type projectiles. Consequently, we still find quite a few European chambers with long throats, and some U.S. Makers have done the same thing, especially when chambering for cartridges of European origin, such as the 7X57mm......

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Originally posted by El Deguello:
I think originally, most European military rifles for smokeless powder used cartridges that had long heavy RN bullets, and were throaterd accordingly. This seems to have then carried over to non-military loads, and was retained even after the changeover to shorter, spitzer type projectiles. Consequently, we still find quite a few European chambers with long throats, and some U.S. Makers have done the same thing, especially when chambering for cartridges of European origin, such as the 7X57mm......

Good point.
- mike

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Originally posted by scubapro:
Buy a Sauer 202 or Blaser R93 and You could have that caliber as a standard. And You could change the barrel if You need another caliber...

Klaus

I'm with Klaus. Here's my 202 with 7x64 (long throat) and .30-06 (short throat) bbls.


BTW, both bbls. keep 5 shots < .75 MOA.

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Originally posted by kaboom:
Another option is find a good used modern 7X57 and have the chamber buzzed.

And set back - 7x57 neck thickness requires this I was always told....