I've kicked around the comparisons of the fast 338"s and the RUM was probably the winner because it is a N.American round.

Chamberings aside I want to compare two rifles. Seeing that the TRG-S and Sendero are about the same price, which one is better?

They both have a reputation for accuracy. They both have 26" barrels and weigh the same. The sendero may look cooler but I allways thought that Sako was better Quality.

For the 11 or 1200 bucks up here in Canada, where's the money better spent?

Boilerroom, You can't come down here to buy one I suppose? The quality control is probably better with the Sako products, but If you look the Remington over good and everything seems to be in order, like making sure the barrel has the same amount of clearance in the barrel channel, I'm sure the Sako is spot on, get the rifle that feels the best to you, the Sako has an easily adjustable trigger, as does the Remington, I'll forward my insructions for the Remington trigger, If you like, the Remington does have a 2yr warranty, just in case something goes wrong with it, not sure about the Sako in the warranty dept., the one that 'feels' the best to you is the one I'd go with. Jay

Tell me about it Jay, my barrel chanel is way off on my sendero 338 ultra. But it is the best shooting rifle I own. I have never seen a sendero thou that wasn't a shooter.

Hey boilerroom, don't know about the .338 RUM but I own a Sendero SF 7mm RUM.... it is the best shooting gun I've owned.

Boilerroom, hands down the Sako. Once you get using the TRG-S, you'll wonder why you didn't years ago.

I have only fired one trg-s and accuracy was average.I have fired several sendero's in various chamberings and have yet to see one that was not accurate.

They both are accurate, we know this much. I'm wondering about quality. Down the road I'd like to own a real one hole puncher but I'm looking at a quality hunting rifle for the time being.

I've heard some complaints about Remington quality but that could be cause so many people own remmies. Theres going to be the odd one or is it more than that? I've heard no quality complaints about TRG's, but there isnt many kicking around.

Hi boilerroom!

The TRG is an ok gun but if you want a quality Sako spend the money and get the 75. The TRG has a rubbery stock, a $140.00 clip that breaks if you drop it (plastic), and is very heavy.
Trg's also seem to have metal that will rust easier than most other guns.

Yes Remington has had some quality control problems but they are usually very minor.

A Remington is sort of like a chevy 350...everyone sells parts to fit it and its usually cheaper than than anything else.

I have half a dozen new Remington 700s and have no complaints with any of them.

We are coming up your way October 30 to murder a Moose and some deer. If you are interested in shooting some of our guns let me know.

Have fun!

Jamie

My mate and I have been kicking around a lon range .338 for a while. Would love a Sako TRG 42 but there about $4600AUS in .338 Lapua. The Sendenero .338 Rem is around $2100.00 is the Sako $2500 better

X-man

Last time you said that, I did let you know. Take a look at your PM.

I'm pretty sure that the TRG-s and Sendero are very close in weight. I was unaware of the clip on the TRG-S. Thanks. Thats why I'm rolling these boring threads around.

Be aware of the TRG-S's intrinsic fault of not having a good recoil lug. It's a design flaw that Sako gets away with by slapping their name on it. Once you get it properly bedded, however, it's a great rifle. Mine's in the shop getting a muzzle brake put on it right now, and then it's getting a nice dose of Acraglass. The Senderos always seem to shoot very well. My Sendero in 300 Win Mag shot 1/2" groups all day long with 180gr factory stuff. Either way, I don't think you'd be disappointed.

Marty,

what makes the TRG 42 so good ?? give me the sales talk.

Why should one buy the Sako TRG 42 over the cheaper offerings

Sako preformans should sell it self.

A Sako should be a out of the box rifle, just find a load that it likes and you're done. No new trigger, no new stock, no work with the action, etc. I should be all you need right from the start.

Before you say that it's bulid wrong in any way, just take it out a shoot it. That should sell the sako.

Johan

PC-
The TRG 22/42 action smoothness will easily put a Sako 75 or Custom 700 to shame.
The trigger assembly is adjustable for length, pitch, and weight of either stage. It drops out in a complete unit with the turn of a scew for easy adjustment.
The 3 lug bolt results in a very short (60 degree) lift of the oversize bolt knob.
The synthetic stock has an adjustable butt and cheekpiece as well as attachments for quick release slings, an accessory rail, etc.
The Sako is guranteed to be 1/2 MOA with many in the 1/4 MOA range.
Factory accessories include muzzle break, bipod, hard case, silencer (TRG21/22), stock spacers, competition sights, quick release scope mounts, etc.
It really isn't fair to compare it to a TRGS or 700. The TRG 22/42 isn't expensive-it's just a high value rifle
How is that for a sales pitch?

Johan, the only problem with your statement is that the Sako isn't an "out of the box rifle", at least not for me. The stock doesn't fit me, the cheekpiece is too high. When you touch off 338 Lapua rounds, it's like being rabbit punched on the cheekbone every shot. Makes it hard to concentrate. The clip works very well, although as pointed out, they are very expensive. Also, when you get down to handloads, the 338 Lapua only gives me about 50 fps more then my 340 Wby, and at least in these two particular rifles' case, the Wby is more accurate. I really think the 338 Lapua needs more barrel then 26" to make good use of all the case capacity. Accubond now makes stocks and bottom metal, so that's fixable, and I can re-barrel with a longer, braked, heavier profile barrel, but really, if all I'm going to use is the receiver, I'm better off with a 700 Sendero in 338 RUM. FWIW - Dan

I have to agree with dan as I found the trg-s in 30-378 to have much more felt recoil than my 300ultramags or 338x8mmremmag.The stock seems to really amplify recoil compared to my other rifles.

This post shows how rifles may or may not fit you. I own 2 TRG-S and have shot several others and the stock fits me perfect!! Recoil is not a problem even for my 450 Ackley.

Mike

IMR you are tortureing my Bank Acount mate

No you have openened my eyes, a good sales pitch indeed.

Having sold my TRGS for a Sendero, I might as well jump into this...

1 - The TRGS action is great but the rest of the gun is too light (stock, barrel contour) in the big cartridges (30-378 & 338 Lapua) for best accuracy.

2 - There have been numerous reports of poor accuracy in the 30-378. I think most of these are due to the way the stock is bedded, which does not allow the stock to ber firmly bedded (the slot in the receiver is larger than the key in the stock). My 30-378 was erratic.

3 - The stock is utilitarian. Coupled with the light weight and rock hard butt my TRGS was very uncomfortable to shoot.

4 - I don't believe anyone makes a replacement stock for the TRGS (not counting custom stockmakers). Mounts are not a problem (std Sako dovetail).

5 - My Sendero is more accurate and much more comfortable to shoot.

6 - The TRGS clip system fed very well but like most clip systems is not as convenient at the range as a standard Mauser magazine (you can't just snap in rounds)

7 - The Sendero SF is at least 1 lb heavier (maybe more) than a TRGS. Look up the specs online.

If your a hunter and want a lightweight big stick the TRGS is a lot of bang for the buck. I do most of my shooting at the range and prefer the Sendero.

Again, Marty (see the other TGR-S post), the stock is removable, the same as any rifle. Accra-bond makes stocks and bottom metal. I believe that a copy of the bottom metal was also sent to McMillan. The only molded on parts are the trigger guard and bottome metal (for lack of a better term). - Dan

Dan -

My information was based on the 2002 SHOT Show, and AT THAT TIME, this was the information provided first hand. (stated that in one of my posts) Sounds like SAKO (and others) indeed listened to our pleas and make new stocks. But I stand by the fact that McMillan FLAT OUT refused (at 2002 SHOT) to make a new stock for the TRG-S ... and the guys at Lazzeroni were lamenting the fact that they could not get other stocks.

Good to see that has changed, because I really like that action ... (for that price)

Thanks for setting me straight!

Edit to correct the year from 2001 to 2002

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